Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It manages the energy conservation program and provides financial assistance to government agencies and non-profit organizations through the consumption of energy and utilities. So this funding is available to territorial and community-funded agencies and boards, non-profits, and assists in undertaking projects that reduce consumption of energy and utilities. Historically this has been used for upgrading of lighting, heating, ventilation, water and electrical systems. In addition, this program was used in our current funding year, 2003-04, to lever an additional $160,000 in federal aboriginal and northern communities action plan funding. We have a number of initiatives that we are targeting with the $300,000 in 2004-05. The other point I would make that differentiates it somewhat is this program will also take the lead role in coordinating our territorial approach and our actions to controlling the emission of greenhouse gases.
Debates of March 22nd, 2004
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David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do thank the Minister for his answers to those questions and I know he's given us a commitment that we can sit down with him and hopefully iron out some of these areas that we see duplication in because this is definitely one of them, Mr. Chairman. Sorry for the pun, but we turn the lights out on this Energy Secretariat, by which, by all accounts, was a waste of money and I would hate to see the government wasting additional dollars on a duplication of a service that I believe is being delivered by the department and perhaps by the Power Corporation as well. We certainly have to get a handle on this and I am glad to see the Minister recognizes this as an area of great concern for our committee and perhaps for the rest of the Regular Members on this side of the House. Thank you.
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
I will take the Member's point and I will ensure that I sit down with the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, the Premier. He's obviously aware of this discussion and I think there's a need to come forward to committee and discuss these mandates. If and when they overlap, we need to address
that. Even with our limited resources, we have put priority on making sure we not only effectively deliver programs, but also efficiently and make the best use of our money and I am committed to do that. Thank you.
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a very short question, if I may get permission to return to page 11-15.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Mr. Chairman, my question has to do with other expenses on page 11-15. There is an increase of $1 million from the mains and revised from last year to this year. Can I get an explanation on the increase and the breakdown? Thank you.
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
Thank you. That additional $1 million is one-time start-up funding for the Waste Recovery and Reduction Act. The start-up costs are just over $1 million and that makes the difference the Member has pointed to when you compare mains to mains. Thank you.
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Why would we put a start-up cost for program money into other expenses? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to have it under program delivery? Is that a normal way to do that?
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
It is also known in program delivery, but on this main summary sheet, this is where it reconciles.
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
Sorry. I am not following where the $260,000 is. If the Member could clarify that for me, we will give her that breakdown.
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was subtracting the $1 million out of $1.2 million as the start-up costs for the waste recovery program.
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will give the Member the detail on the entire $1.26 million because it's slightly over $1 million for the waste reduction recovery. It's $1.078 million. If you bear with me, I will give you that detail.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That consists of travel and transportation, $79,000; materials and supplies, $639,000; purchased services, $30,000; utilities, $10,000; contract services, $120,000; fees and payments, $133,000; other expenses, $37,000; and, tangible assets, $12,000. That adds up to $1.26 million. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.