Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Minister.
Debates of March 22nd, 2004
This is page numbers 113 - 182 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We don't, in fact, use one agency to book the travel. I believe that's the Member's question. Various divisions do it themselves and we encourage that they go to a wide range of travel agencies and travel services to make sure the business is spread out. Thank you.
Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We have certain building leases that the department is involved in and these utility figures are for these building leases. An example would be the facility in Fort Smith for the forest fire centre. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Calvin Pokiak
Page 11-11, corporate management, grants and contributions, contributions, total contributions, $1.995 million.
Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Before we leave this section, may I just ask a question on what it is this section does? Am I correct in understanding that this section provides essentially services to the department but it does not deliver programs to the public? Am I correct in assuming that, please?
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
It does incorporate industrial initiatives that are strategic in nature, so in that regard it is involved in programming. In the strictest sense, I guess, it's not a program delivery agent, if that's the Member's question.
Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
Absolutely, Mr. Chairman. I will get that information. Just bear with me one moment here, we are just going to look that up. We have that information by division, but not by activity. What I could do is organize this information across not only this activity, but all the other activities and provide that to the Member. We have just chosen to sort it by division and that's clearly not what she's asking for. We can get that information. It will just take us a few minutes.
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just want to make sure that I have the proper context, so that I don't draw the wrong conclusions. These numbers might not be difficult to accept if it's proven that it's not just to serve the department in house. The Minister mentioned that the utility costs for $591,000 includes buildings in Smith. That makes me think that we're not just talking about headquarters where corporate management is sort of the internal, central organization that provides support services to departments. Could I ask the Minister whether these travel budgets and materials and services and purchased services and contract services and all that, is this section in charge of getting these for the rest of the department and the regional offices, or is it just limited to the deputy ministers, the ADMs and their support staff?
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The Chair Calvin Pokiak
Thank you, Ms. Lee. For the benefit of the committee, we are referring back to page 11-9. Mr. Bell.
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It includes not only headquarters and the headquarters offices, but it includes the North Slave, Dogrib, South Slave, Inuvik, Sahtu and Deh Cho regions as well.
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