Thank you, Mr. Minister. I think that is what the Member was looking for. Thank you. Ms. Lee.
Debates of March 24th, 2004
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you very much. Then under this section on this page, could I get the Minister to give us figures on other categories, materials and services, contract services, purchased services I believe, and fees and payments if there are any, and computer software and hardware? Thank you.
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Certainly, Mr. Chairman. Materials and supplies is $95,000; purchased services is $191,000; contract services is $631,000; fees and payments is $106,000; other expenses is $199,000; computer hardware and software is $1.637 million.
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you very much. May I just get some indication as to what sort of services are purchased under contract services for $631,000, as well as $1.6 million for computers seems high. Is there something unique about the programs that this division uses? Thank you.
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On the computer chargeback, there are eleven systems that are maintained, so that is the chargeback that we pay for the maintenance of those systems basically. Mr. Chairman, I am advised too that that includes contract payments for software support. When you have software you often have to pay the manufacturer for support as well, so that is included in there. But this is all basically related to the 11 different systems, like the CMAS, the student financial assistance programs, the income support programs. There are a number of different computer systems that we run, 11 in total, and that is what the software support is for.
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a last follow-up on that item. Could I get the details for contract services for $631,000? I believe what he just said has to do with the computer services.
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The biggest portion of that would be for support for the CMAS system we pay to CGI.
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The Chair David Ramsay
Okay, back to directorate and administration, operations expense, total operations expense, $6.44 million.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair David Ramsay
Page 9-11, advanced education and careers, operations expense, total operations expense, $72.428 million. Ms. Lee.
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am looking for a breakdown there too, please. Thank you.
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Of other expenses, I am assuming, Mr. Chairman, travel is $177,000; materials and supplies is $126,000; purchased services is $168,000; utilities is $526,000; contract services is $3.091 million; fees and payments is $17.116 million; and other expenses of $4.274 million; computer hardware and software is $212,000.
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. May I get some information on that fee payment for $17 million, as well as the contract services and further breakdown of other expenses for $4 million? Thank you.
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Mr. Chairman, that is a very difficult one for us to break out because it is included in all of the different tasks. It includes everything from colleges and ABE literacy. I am not sure; I could give a more detailed breakdown I guess by task if that would help Members, but I can't break out where the fees would necessarily be in each of these. So I am asking for the direction of committee here. I can provide a much more detailed breakdown, but I can't answer the question as to how to break out other expenses and separate out the fees, because some of it is included in each of the tasks and I don't have it here divided up by fees.
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