Mr. Villeneuve, you are building a momentum here. Minister Dent.

Under services to government we have $261,000 for travel and transportation, $287,000 for materials and supplies, $212,000 for purchased services, $249,000 for contract services, $282,000 for fees and payments, $1.145 million for other expenses, and $388,000 for tangible assets. Under other expenses, that included maintenance chargebacks for facilities to Public Works and Services, furniture and equipment for facilities.

Thank you very much, Minister Dent. Any other questions on total operations expenses? Any other questions on page 7-9? Mr. Villeneuve.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am just wondering about the $1.145 million under other expenses. The mains chargebacks and office furniture, could I just get a quick breakdown on what the percentages for those two categories of the $1 million? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. Minister Dent.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I actually read the wrong line when I read that part out. So other expenses of $1.145 million actually all relates to departmental systems and communications chargeback, and that is the TSC chargeback.

Thank you, Minister Dent. Mr. Villeneuve.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, I just thought the maintenance was pretty steep. Thank you.

Page 7-9, services to government, operation expense, total operations expense, $10.456 million.

Page 7-11, services to government, grants and contributions, grants, total grants, $79,000.

Page 7-13, law enforcement, operations expense, total operations expense, $22.802 million. Mr. Braden.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The whole area of adequate police services is one that is always out there, certainly in the media at the community levels, and with non-government organizations working with social services on the front line. I personally don't see a tremendous part of the solution or a big part of the solution to violence and security issues as just simply hiring more police. There are many other factors that go into a safe and a secure society. I won't get into that right now, I don't think that would go anywhere. What I did want to do though is reflect on a report that was done by "G" Division about a year ago, Mr. Chairman, that suggested that the Northwest Territories "G" Division needed about another 27 officers to fulfill what it saw as its duties. The information provided around this budget says that we are going to see another 12. I figure in this day and age that is not bad if you can see a 50 percent requisition filled for something as expensive and as hard to come by as police officers. There are not a lot of these trained people out there. So I think we have done okay within the last year...

Members on this side, can you quiet down while the Member is speaking? Thank you. Mr. Braden.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So we have information that says we are going to get another 12 police officers in various positions. What I wanted to ask about was where "G" Division has suggested they would like to see about another 15 officers. Is our government going to continue to get resources, to get more policing in place, or are we going to hit the pause button on this, are we going to make due with what we have? Is that all we will be able to do for the next while? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Dent.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am not the Minister of Finance so I am not sure that I can answer that question. I can't make a commitment in a subsequent year's budget. It is certainly something that we are planning to continue working with "G" Division to see how we can address their requirements. We will have to take a look at where we are as we develop the business plans, and I am hoping that we will be able to continue to address their request for manpower.

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Braden. General comments? Law enforcement, operations and expense, total operations expense, $22.802 million. Ms. Lee.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. May I have the breakdown of the other expenses, which comprises the 100 percent of the budget under this section? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Dent.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The money is all for basically police services. There is $261,000 for First Nations policing, $22.4 million for the RCMP contract, and $132,000 for a DNA agreement.

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Ms. Lee.