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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Mr. Delorey.

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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So I understand then that with the addition of these positions that the department is asking for, they would end up with

two technicians, one trainee and four assessors. Is that correct?

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Delorey. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

We'll have, like I indicated, there's one technician currently in Hay River, one here in Yellowknife. There will be an addition to that. So there will be three technicians and we're going have three assessors and one trainee. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Mr. Delorey.

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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What would be the bulk of the work for, say, the two where you need an extra technician, the two technicians' positions? Those two positions, I'm sure, would be staying at headquarters, would they not? Where is the bulk of the load there for the requirement of an extra technician? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Delorey. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Chairman, the additional technician, as the Member is aware, would have to do all the ground work, basically, to do various files and database. It's very time-consuming. As the Member knows, if you're dealing with lands there's a lot of paperwork and a lot of data that has to be entered, et cetera. That's what the technician would primarily be doing. That's why we need an additional technician. The workload is going to increase if we have these other assessors on stream. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Mr. Delorey.

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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you. Just one final comment on that. As you know, when committee is looking at these draft mains, we've been under the assumption and the knowledge that the government is under fiscal restraints and the committee was very cognizant of watching for growth areas and not wanting to see too much growth in departments and deal with expenses that the government is pretty well bound to. The committee would really appreciate having a heads up when there's going to be growth to go through the proper process through business plan reviews and to make a proper case for growth, especially at headquarters. I think the department should be aware of that, that we're at a time of tightening our belts and not of growth. I would like to get the Minister's comments on this, that this is actually growth at headquarters. The committee is very concerned about that. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Delorey. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you. I agree with the comments that Mr. Delorey is making. This forced growth is, as I indicated in my opening comments, in regard to creating the Tlicho government through their Tlicho agreement. That's one component of it. The other one is forced growth which is required because of the physical restraints that we have. By having these people in place at headquarters, I know headquarters is an issue for some people, but we feel that they would be better housed here so that we can undertake the work which will generate more money for the government and the municipalities. On top of that, it would bring our assessment roles up to date. That's the reason that this forced growth occurred this current year. Thank you. But I agree with the honourable Member on the comments that he has made and we are going to be very cognizant of what we do next year. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Now I have Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Oh, sorry. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm just looking for the breakdown of $1 million. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Travel, $54,000; supplies, $35,000; purchased services, $30,000; contracts, $842,000; fees and payments, $30,000; other expenses, $5,000; computers, $33,000; total of $1.29 million. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Could I have more information about the $842,000 for contract services, please? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the bulk of the money in contracts, approximately $500,000, would go to assessment and the others would be for all the reviews that we're planning to do on our taxation, Planning Act, et cetera. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

So for the latter item of the reviews of legislation and Planning Act and taxation and such, are the contracts for legal services on that contract, please? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Chairman, some are going to be for consultants, some are going to be for people to analyze stuff, some are going to be actually indicated legal reviews also. It will encompass legal review also, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Ms. Lee. Thank you. Mr. Allen.