Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Member knows, we have community justice committees throughout the Northwest Territories that are doing work in this area. I have asked the department to analyze the success and the frequency with which we are using our community justice committees. I think we have some that have been more successful than others, and I am trying to get a better understanding, and follow some of the trends, to see if we can make improvements to reinforce this very important area of our justice system. In addition, I think the Member is aware, I have agreed to sit down and talk about a way to redouble our efforts in the area of wilderness camp programs. While everybody recognizes the importance of the program and the potential, we haven't been able to deliver the type of service that I would like to see. I am going to take another shot at it and see if we can't come up with a model that can be more successful. I look forward to working with the committee and Members in that regard. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Supplementary question, Mr. Yakeleya.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as he mentioned, he's going to look at the success and come up with a model. Would he make a commitment to work with the communities to set up wilderness camps? People have limited education to fill out the application process. That model isn't working in its present state. Will he look at alternative ways to help the communities fill out the applications, the process, to set up these camps? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Bell.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'll give my commitment to the Member that we will work with communities. We will work with people in communities who we think can be very useful in helping us get this model off the ground. This is not going to be about who is best able to respond to a request for proposals in the newspaper and who can submit the best proposal. It's going to be working with people in these communities to get this program back up and running. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, will the Minister, in addition to his help in the communities, look at the other jurisdictions within Canada that have this type of model of wilderness camps or the approach that we may be looking at to visit them and have a site visit with these camps to see how we may replicate this type of service in the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Bell.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We'd certainly be willing to do that. Unfortunately, I think the department has had quite a look at this, and it's not something that's currently used in the Yukon. It's used, to some degree, in Nunavut, but in the South it's largely unheard of, Mr. Speaker. So I think we were forerunners in the development of this type of programming and, as I've said, I think we need to redouble our efforts and look

at how we can make it more successful. But we have been breaking trail here. If the Member is aware of any models that we could look at, I'd certainly like to discuss that with him. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister is correct that the Northwest Territories is leading the way in terms of the types of wilderness camps we have up here. We have the Tl'oondih Healing Society up there in Fort McPherson that has an excellent facility...

...and has an excellent program.

It's a crying shame that we're not using it more often.

However, Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask the Minister, when he looks at these models in the Northwest Territories, would he take into consideration having a family healing concept camp with this type of model where families can also be involved in these models in terms of reintegration of people back into the community and the healthy lifestyle? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Bell.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would agree that families are very important in successful reintegration, especially when we're dealing with young offenders. I think the Member is probably aware, the last two years running we've used Tl'oondih in talking about transitioning people from the corrections system back into society. We are planning to use that facility again this year. The reports from the programming have been overwhelmingly positive, and it's something that we're going to continue. But I would agree with the Member that it really is about working with the entire family. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Further to my Member's statement, I want to ask questions about day care programs to the Minister of ECE. Mr. Speaker, I realize that this is a very complicated issue, but it is a common theme that we hear all over the Territories. That is that we are just not doing enough to provide a healthy learning environment for our young children at the preschool ages. In Yellowknife, it is just well known that the workers that work in day care centres are notoriously underpaid. Any kind of subsidy that government makes available doesn't go anywhere near addressing the issue. Across the Territories, there are places where there are just not day care homes available. The government insists on that funding, any capital funding for these day cares. While we are passing the buck around saying that this is a federal responsibility, it is a territorial responsibility. The territorial government doesn't pay for capital funding. We have all these children with no educational opportunities at the preschool level. I'd like to know from the Minister what he's doing, as the Minister of ECE, to address this question. Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, about a year ago, the Minister of Social Development, the Honourable Ken Dryden, announced a program that would see, he said, $5 billion coming to Canadians to assist the provinces and territories in providing improved services and access to day care. However, we have, to this point, not been successful at seeing this money come to the Northwest Territories. The federal government, in this situation, has offered us nothing more than per capita funding, which wouldn't allow us to make a significant change or improvement in what we are offering in the Northwest Territories. So at this point, we are continuing to negotiate. The Premiers of the three territories have together written to the Prime Minister to protest the position that has been taken by Social Development, and we are hopeful that we will be able to resolve this so that we can see some money coming to the North. I would then hope to be able to make sure that we can improve what is being offered in early childhood education. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Ms. Lee.