Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. McLeod.
Debates of Feb. 11th, 2005
This is page numbers 1159 - 1190 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was going.
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Supplementary To Question 369-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 369-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Further Return To Question 369-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Mr. Speaker, I certainly agree that our youth today will be adults of tomorrow. I will look at our process, our standards and criteria that we use as a guideline, and we will be moving forward with a plan to address infrastructure in the smaller communities and put more emphasis on the recreation. We are hearing it from the Members on the other side and we certainly take it as direction. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 369-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Supplementary To Question 369-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I could almost see like a candle of light starting there. There wasn't a flashlight or a big beam, but I could feel the warmth of light. You are lighting the path in the right direction. Mr. Speaker, we are getting a whole whack of dollars for infrastructure money. I don't have to talk about how much; this is the right Minister to talk to though. Will he use his power to create a policy that helps some of those infrastructure dollars to address this problem? Mr. Speaker, I want to hear him take control of his department and take control of this problem. Will he help the youth? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 369-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Further Return To Question 369-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have been focused on the youth in terms of our initiatives over the last while; we will continue to do so. I certainly will heed to the direction provided by the Members over the recreation facility issue in the smaller communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 369-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Supplementary To Question 369-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am hearing the warmth from that cold Minister over there on the books; finally. It's good to see that, thank you.
Mr. Speaker, these directives can be done today. I want to hear this Minister say today he's got the power that we will work to make this initiative within this capital budget, within the next five years, we can do this. Show some leadership, Mr. Speaker, because that little gymnasium is the heart of a community. It's a community centre, it's for gathering places like tea dances; my colleague over here just said it is the heart of the community. Will the Minister seriously agree to look into this problem today and see if we can adjust it within our five-year capital plan, so that the people of Nahanni who are without a gymnasium can have that problem solved? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 369-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Further Return To Question 369-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Mr. Speaker, it has always been in our plans to have consultation with all communities to see what their needs are. Our process allows for that. We want to be able to hear from all of the communities before I commit to taking one program, one project in our 20-year needs and moving it forward. We would like to review all the projects that are out there and then make a decision based on fairness and need. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 369-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Pokiak.
Question 370-15(3): Conditions For Pipeline Development
Item 6: Oral Questions
February 10th, 2005
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Calvin Pokiak Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to talk about the pipeline discussions that went on this morning on CBC Radio. I found it very interesting this morning when people were calling in, and I think the majority of the callers were in favour of the pipeline. On the one hand, in the Finance Minister's statement yesterday, he indicated that the government is in support of the Mackenzie Valley pipeline. I think that's working in the right direction. On the other hand, the problem we are having, Mr. Speaker, is we are still talking about resource revenue sharing. On one hand, the government supports the program of the Mackenzie Valley pipeline and on the other hand, you say unless we get the resource revenue sharing agreement in place, the government will not approve this. What direction are you showing the people of the Northwest Territories? In my region, the Inuvialuit are progressive people and they are looking forward to developments like this. Can the Premier indicate whether we are in support of it or not? Thank you.
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Speaker, we support the pipeline. We need the pipeline, I believe, to have a strong economy. But our support is not unconditional. There are conditions on it in the same way with the Inuvialuit, the Gwich'in, the Sahtu, everybody is negotiating benefit and access agreements and we support them in doing that. I know their support is not unconditional. They are not going to say come and take the oil and gas, we don't need any agreements, we don't need any more benefits. Our position is the same as theirs. We have conditions on environment, conditions in terms of social issues, conditions on the financial side. We do not want to see, over the next 20 years, $50 to $70 billion in government revenues from development go south and we are left there with a few short-term benefits. So, yes, we have conditions on it and I believe they are achievable and I am confident that our Prime Minister is determined to be fair with us on this issue. I am not at all even thinking that the pipeline will be stopped because of resource revenue sharing, because I believe strongly that we can achieve that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Supplementary To Question 370-15(3): Conditions For Pipeline Development
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Calvin Pokiak Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Right now, there is a joint review panel doing an assessment of the documents provided by Imperial Oil. There is a process going on right now, Mr. Speaker. NEB is doing their own review of the socioeconomics of the program. Are we moving too fast to say yes or no? Can we just let the joint review panel do their work, the NEB do their work, at the same time we, as government, can sit down and iron out socioeconomic agreements without resource revenue sharing? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 370-15(3): Conditions For Pipeline Development
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Further Return To Question 370-15(3): Conditions For Pipeline Development
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Speaker, as I said earlier, there is a lot of work to be done over the next 18 months or two years by one of the review committees, on socioeconomic benefits, environmental or technical issues, before a recommendation is made to the federal government to approve or not approve this pipeline. We have a lot of work to do. I think a lot of this work has to happen at the same time. We don't want to slow down the pipeline. The gas is needed in the South. We need the revenues. We need the economic activity. We don't want industry to turn somewhere else, to Alaska, as an alternative, and leave us sitting here with nothing happening. So we have to move ahead at the same time.
We are actively negotiating the resource revenue sharing and devolution as a requirement. We are negotiating the socioeconomic agreement. The regional governments, aboriginal governments, are negotiating their benefit and access agreements and the pipeline company is going through the environmental and technical review stages. So all of that happens at the same time. At the same time, we also have to look at social impacts and maybe do some adjustments of our programs. We have to look at training. So we have a very, very busy 18 months to two years here. I don't think we can solve one problem and then the next one and then the next one, otherwise we will still be talking 30 years from now. We have to roll up our sleeves and work on all these fronts at the same time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Handley. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.
Question 371-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of MACA. I would just like to quote from the Finance Minister's budget speech. His last line, Mr. Speaker, states: "It is up to the leaders of the Northwest Territories to light the path and lead the way." Lead the way!
Question 371-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Some Hon. Members
Lead the way!
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Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh
For me, what that means, Mr. Speaker, is if we identify a need, we must address it. Here is a need that needs addressing. I would like the Minister to address it and tell me what he's going to do about fulfilling this need. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. McLeod.
Return To Question 371-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am assuming the need he's talking about is the gymnasium in Nahanni Butte.
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Mr. Speaker, there is a lot of need across the board. We have to recognize that there is still considerable demand for investment in our water and sewer programs. We have had, in the last while, guidelines set with the federal government as to how we are going to deal with water, how we are going to deal with waste water. We have to make sure we can invest in those things. Some of the dollars that are flowing forward from the federal government come with criteria attached to where we can spend them. We have some flexibility in our budget for building a baseline for communities to decide where they want to invest in the communities. I want to be able to hear from the communities. I want to be able to have some consultation before I decide, and that will light the way for us to move forward. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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