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Supplementary To Question 363-15(3): Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Readiness
Question 363-15(3): Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Readiness
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 363-15(3): Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Readiness
Question 363-15(3): Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Readiness
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I have been very clear on that all along and I will say it again: We cannot tolerate having zero royalties stay with this government and stay with northern people. We have to have an agreement and we have to have an agreement before the pipeline proceeds. That's the bottom line for our government and we haven't changed our position. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 363-15(3): Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Readiness
Question 363-15(3): Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Readiness
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would just like to follow up on my Member's statement to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. In this sitting of the Assembly, I told people of Nahanni Butte I am either going to have a good news story for you or a bad news story. The way it looks, it looks like a bad news story. There is no indication of a gymnasium for Nahanni Butte. That is absolutely to say that next year we will have something for you. I would like to ask the Minister of MACA when or where can we look at this infrastructure for Nahanni Butte, Mr. Speaker? Mahsi cho.

Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. McLeod.

Return To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish I could have some good news. Unfortunately, the budget is before us and we have yet to approve it before we will really know how much we have to put towards infrastructure. There have been a number of announcements over the last while, including the Finance Minister's announcement yesterday, to put more money towards capital projects in the communities, both in non-tax-based and tax-based. However, that has yet to be approved. Although the federal Minister has announced how the money will be allocated by jurisdictions across Canada for the gas tax, we still haven't signed an agreement as to the actual breakout of how the money will be distributed. We have not had the opportunity to sit down with the NWT Association of Communities to discuss how that will be divvied up amongst the communities in the Northwest Territories. We've just recently signed the MRIF. So there is still a lot of work before we can actually announce where the money will be spent. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Supplementary, Mr. Menicoche.

Supplementary To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am well aware of some of the limitations that the Minister is faced with, but if anything can be classified as green infrastructure, it would be the gymnasium in Nahanni Butte, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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Some Hon. Members

Hear! Hear!

---Applause

Supplementary To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

So I would like to ask the Minister if he could look at that and use that definition when bartering with his colleagues, Mr. Speaker. Will the Minister consider it as green infrastructure? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. McLeod.

Further Return To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it has been very difficult in the last many years to put recreational infrastructure in the communities and put it through the capital planning process and have it compete against water treatment plants and sewer lagoons. This year we have some new monies and we have a considerable amount compared to what we had for capital projects and infrastructure.

We certainly support recreational infrastructure being put back on the radar screen. It's something we want to work towards as social Ministers to improve the quality of lives. So capital infrastructure, gymnasiums are all something we are considering. We are looking at the criteria and standards. We want to reach out to all communities, the larger centres and the smaller communities including Nahanni Butte, Enterprise and Kakisa, those who don't actually have gymnasiums. We would like to be able to address those issues and whatever else is coming forward as infrastructure deficiencies. So we will be working on all those things over the next while, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Supplementary, Mr. Menicoche.

Supplementary To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister announced earlier today about the ski program being a high priority. That's something Nahanni Butte has been doing for a long time and we would like some other choices, Mr. Speaker.

---Laughter

My question for the Minister, Mr. Speaker, is the gymnasium a high priority for this government today? Mahsi cho.

Supplementary To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. McLeod.

Further Return To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, active living has been a priority for this government for some time and we've increased the pressures on ourselves to commit more and more to stimulate that whole area. We have been focussing on the smaller communities. We have put in a multi-purpose hall in the community of Nahanni Butte. We have also been working with the community to put up a youth centre. So it's not as if we have been ignoring the community. At this point, with our current standards and criteria, the community doesn't have a population for a gymnasium. We want to be able to review that and move it forward as a priority and start looking at what we can do for these small communities in the North. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Your final supplementary, Mr. Menicoche.

Supplementary To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am surprised the Minister brings up population as one of the mitigating factors in determining which communities get a gymnasium. We all know that's not true today. I would like the Minister to stand away from that argument and say as an identifying need this community doesn't have this facility. In our budget, we are talking about second schools and second gymnasiums in the larger centres. I think before they get theirs, Mr. Speaker, that communities without should get those facilities and I would like the Minister to commit to that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Supplementary To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. McLeod.

Further Return To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The community of Nahanni Butte has certainly made their views known. I have received a petition. I have received letters from practically every student and every youth from that community. It's been in the media. We have heard it from the honourable Member for Nahendeh on several occasions now. We've gotten the message. We've heard it from other small communities that there has to be a new focus on recreational facilities and we intend to do that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Question 364-15(3): Gymnasium Needed In Nahanni Butte
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.

Question 365-15(3): Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the Premier, continuing along the theme of resource development and the Mackenzie Valley pipeline. Mr. Speaker, I was really pleased to hear the Premier say that there is a realization that no, we are not ready for this project and that we have come, or at least he and his Cabinet have come close to defining some of the terms we need to see in place. That was at least specific to the pipeline that a resource revenue sharing deal must be in place before we will endorse the start of this pipeline. That is an admirable position to be in. Mr. Speaker, if we are to see this happen, we have a lot of work to do amongst ourselves. I spoke about the need for trust at all levels to be able to achieve this. What kind of measures, Mr. Speaker, is this government taking to engender and foster the trust that we need to get on with this? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 365-15(3): Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. The honourable Premier, Mr. Handley.

Return To Question 365-15(3): Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Development
Question 365-15(3): Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Development
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Yes, Mr. Speaker, we have a lot of work ahead of us in the next 18 months or so to get ready for the pipeline. I am confident that we will be there. I want to clarify it's not just about money either. We have got environmental issues that have to be sorted out. We have training issues. We have social issues, but we have to work together to achieve that. Mr. Speaker, the issue of trust is a good question because we have to work with each other, all of us in government at all levels, NGOs, everybody, towards achieving what's best for our people, and this pipeline presents a great opportunity.

I hope that people will work hard toward that objective and not try to stall it. In trust, we, first of all, have the Northern Strategy that we have been working on. I trust the Prime Minister when he gives me his word and he made the announcement with us on December 14th. I trust the Minister of DIAND when he comes here next month and possibly the month after, and our MP. So we built that relationship, and until they show me they shouldn't be trusted, I trust them.

I have been meeting with the Aboriginal Summit and with regional aboriginal leaders. Our most recent meeting was a little over a week ago. We had some good discussions and we will continue to have those discussions, but when I say something at the meeting and when they say something, then we have to approach it from the point that we are all being genuine in our statements back and forth to each other.

Mr. Speaker, those have been the two main areas, but we have to work with the other non-government organizations and with training institutions and be confident that they are going to work with us. That's how we become self-reliant people in the Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 365-15(3): Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Development
Question 365-15(3): Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Supplementary, Mr. Braden.