Thank you. Just to be clear, the fees that are applied to the containers, once the recycling takes place, only some of that is recouped by the consumer. The rest of it goes to pay for the operation of the program. So there is a deposit and some of it is refundable and some of it is not. The amount that's not, goes to pay for the program, both for operations and also to recoup the initial capital investment made by government. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
I don't think I got confirmation as to whether this is supposed to be non-profit. I think Minister Roland indicated that it's supposed to be self-sustaining. I don't know what that means. I don't know if there are too many groups out there without making any money. I am assuming somebody will make some money. They should make some money on this. I am being told that they will be required to pay some of these fees back. We don't want to see a situation where they would be overburdened by having to make these payments. I guess at this point we don't have any idea how it's going to work once it finally gets off the ground. I wonder if Minister Bell could add more into this about how it is envisioned that this money gets used to get these projects off the ground in terms of the financial viability and potential for the groups that might be interested in doing this work. Thank you.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The reason we initially went back to Minister Bell is when RWED was one department, he was involved with this. Now that's falling into Minister Miltenberger's side of the equation. The fees will address cost to collect, process, transport containers, and to administer the program. An unredeemed deposit, when everybody goes forward and buys their pop or their juice packs and pays their deposit, if they don't return them back to the depot, that money that is unredeemed as they say, will go towards the administration costs of the program and we'll cover the other costs that are there.
All the revenue and expenses for the program will be managed through a special purpose fund known as the environment fund and the program will pay for itself through the surcharge of each container sold in the NWT, except for the start-up funding. That's some of the start-up funding that we have identified in earlier discussions. It will not be dependent on funding from the GNWT. So it is meant to be a self-sustaining program. A repayment of start-up funding is expected to occur, as Minister Bell stated, over a five-year period from implementation of this. This was the plan from the start of it to where we are now. Unfortunately, trying to get the regulations in place and how it would work in communities is taking longer than was anticipated initially.
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The Chair David Ramsay
Thank you, Mr. Minister. We are back on page 21, Environment and Natural Resources, operations expenditures, corporate management, not previously authorized, negative $137,000.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair David Ramsay
Page 22, Executive, capital investment expenditures, not previously authorized, government accounting, $12,000.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair David Ramsay
Total for Financial Management Board Secretariat, not previously authorized, $12,000.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair David Ramsay
Page 23, Municipal and Community Affairs, capital investment expenditures, community operations, not previously authorized, negative $2.322 million.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.