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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I guess the government lost the court settlement. I just wanted more clarification of why we are writing off $100,000 for a company that seems to me is still in operation here in the NWT. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. Minister Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as I stated, we tried a number of avenues to collect the money that is due to ourselves in a number of areas. This initially came out of the Workers' Compensation Board of NWT and Nunavut and the amount that was owed to them. The company itself reopened in 2001 and at the end of 2003 was forced to apply to the British Columbia Supreme Court for protection under the Companies Creditors Arrangement Act. That was received in December of that year. So that's what kicked this off. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Roland. Anything further, Mr. Villeneuve?

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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just for my own understanding, are we following a court order from the province of B.C. in writing off this debt? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. Minister Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The company would have been registered in that province and filed in that province. The portion we received was applied to that account and that would be directed by the courts what creditors would be given with what's available. In this case, this is the amount we were not able to recover and hence we are coming forward for a write-off. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Roland. Next I have Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I, too, have an inquiry about item 72, North American Tungsten Corporation, a debt to the Workers' Compensation Board for almost $102,000. The question I guess I have, Mr. Chairman is jurisdiction. Why is this item before this committee? We don't typically, in fact at all, does this Assembly approve anything to do with the Workers' Compensation Board, not a penny. They are an independent organization with their own administration and I guess I can't recall when something like this has come before us. Why is it that we are asked to sign off on something that the compensation board, from my understanding, should have jurisdiction, Mr. Chairman?

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Minister Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, presently the way the Financial Administration Act is worded, it does identify that all write-offs have to flow through this process. It is something that we've recognized as an issue. In the re-workings of coming forward with a new FAA, that will be taken into account. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Roland. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

While we are on a technicality here, this is a shared Workers' Compensation Board. Does Nunavut have to go through a similar clunkety-clunk, Mr. Chair?

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Minister Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would have to get that detail. I am unsure if Nunavut has to follow the same process. It is a joint coverage. I am not sure if their FAA is written identical to ours. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

So in other cases, Mr. Chairman, with the Workers' Compensation Board where forgiveness is the logical thing to do, is the Workers' Compensation Board actually involved in going through that process and making that decision, or do they punt their bad debts over to us for management? Who looks after bad accounts on the part of the WCB, Mr. Chairman?

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Minister Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. WCB is directly involved with this process. They go through their own process of taking this into account. In fact, the majority of information provided to us is as a result of WCB's work they provided to us because they recognize the act in place and follow that process through. So they have developed it. They have taken it into account and put it into their doubtful accounts, but because of our act, the way it's written, have provided us with that information. In a sense, it's a final clearance. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Roland. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Finally, Mr. Chairman, just for clarification. The WCB then has full responsibility and accountability for its own debts and its own books. The GNWT does not get involved in it in any way except for this administrative situation here with managing or handling or deciding on their debt portfolio, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Minister Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Yes, that's correct. The WCB is fully involved in their own process. It comes to our table again just because of the Financial Administration Act and we put it through this final stage. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Roland. We are still on page 11, the final page, and that is page 11 to the schedule, item 68 to 72. Any further questions on that page?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.