Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm not sure that we can point to administrative savings with this transfer. I think that it's important to understand that because we were working to effect the transfer of administration without there being any impact on the recipients of social housing, it has required us to increase the administrative burden. That's the only way that we could accomplish it. So there is no savings in administration for the delivery of this program off the bat.

The purpose, though, is to start the process of consolidating all of our income security programs in one area. As Members of this House are aware, we're in the process of reviewing our income security programs and we will, at some point, be examining whether or not there should be changes to our programs. At that point, that may lead to the administrative savings that Mr. Ramsay is questioning. But in order to meet the requirement that there be no net impact on social housing recipients as of April 1st, it required an administrative work around that has actually increased the number of people working.

I have no problem with the Minister of the Housing Corporation responding to Mr. Ramsay's question about administrative staff, if that would help the House.