Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Well, the money has been transferred, so there is no increase to the budget to pay for this. This is being accommodated within existing resources. I

think that Mr. Ramsay says the government has a poor record and I would challenge him on that in particular when it comes to income support. Yes, when income support was transferred to ECE, there was a short-term increase in costs; but if you take a look at what's happened in income support, even in the administration of it over the years, it has reduced its overall cost to this government and significantly. It's not all just because of the better economy. I am quite confident that as we work through our income security review and we move to bring all of our subsidy programs under a common policy framework, that there will be the sorts of savings that Mr. Ramsay is anxious to see. But you can't necessarily accomplish them on the moment of the transfer. When you've got new people doing a new job and you've got a different group of people looking after the program, it sometimes takes a while for things to get worked out.

We made the promise that people who were in social housing would see no change as of April 1st and in order to do that, it does require some increase in staff from the Education, Culture and Employment side. Now, those dollars have been offset in the Housing side. So it's not a situation where we're asking for a total increase in the budget all across the board for the department. This is a transfer and we will accommodate the delivery of the

program, as I said yesterday, hopefully with no net increase in calls to the Members for the program. That is our goal, but it's going to take us a while to work through the income security review. The plan is to have that worked out with the committee and the Members of this Assembly, and hopefully through the next business plan you'll start to see some of those savings come into play. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.