Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't question Mr. Ramsay's responsibility to question all that government does. It's important that Members hold the government to account for what it does and I accept and agree with that. I would hope, though, that Mr. Ramsay would take a longer view than the time he may have been in government, and think back to when income support was transferred to ECE, and take a look at some of the changes that took place in that department in the mid '90s and how we've managed to actually rationalize the delivery of that program. So I think that I can point to some areas where we have had some success, and I believe that we will have this area to point to again in the future. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.