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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Well, the functions of the organizations are changing and there's not a duplication of the functions. The delivery of the assessment for subsidies is being delivered by the workers at the government service centres, so that's where we need to have the ability to do that in those service centres. The funding was transferred from the Housing Corporation, so I think that, over time, we will find ways to streamline the way the operations are delivered and, as we did with income support when it was revised in the mid-'90s, I believe that in the long run we will find ways to achieve the savings that Mr. Ramsay is looking for. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Ramsay. Thank you. Activity summary, income security, 9-36.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Activity summary, income security, I'm talking on page 9-37, activity summary,

income security, grants and contributions, grants, total grants, $9.051 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Information item, activity summary, income security, active positions, 9-39. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

For clarification, Mr. Chairman, in the other positions you have, I think in the income security you have two in the Sahtu, and I'm just noticing in Fort Smith you have seven. It's similar to the population in one community where we have in a region of five communities you have two, and one community you have seven. What's the justification to that, please?

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Fort Smith is not the community of Fort Smith; that's the region of Fort Smith. That would include a number of communities as well, but it's called the Fort Smith region.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you. I didn't mean to cause any ruckus or confusion. Will the Minister in the future list the Fort Smith region, what's the region of Fort Smith? Is it Lutselk'e, then we go to another region, or is it Fort Res, or what is the region? So when you say Fort Smith region...Right now for me it says Fort Smith. So that's for clarification there.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We're just following the regions that are accepted, or the names of the regions that are accepted within the government. I believe the Fort Smith region includes not only Lutselk'e, but Fort Resolution, Fort Smith, Hay River, Hay River Reserve. So there are a number of communities that are included in what's called the Fort Smith region.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I hope that when the Minister is going through the review, that they would update the regions so it reflects the Members on this side here, otherwise when we look at the budget, we'll get a little bit confused in terms of which region we're talking about. So if you could update it. I hope so, anyway. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will pass that comment on to my colleague, the chair of the FMB.

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The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We'll have to take it into consideration at some point here in the future. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

No, it's okay. The Ministers are going to take it into some consideration, Mr. Chairman, and at least reflect what the Members here represent. All I'm saying is have some reflection. Mr. Minister named Fort Smith as a huge region and there's some confusion. So I hope they have some true reflection of the budget here because it does get confusing and this is where some energy and passion comes up. Same as the Inuvik region when we look at that. So anyhow, I just wanted to make comments to that, Mr. Chairman, in terms of have some true reflections of the regions when you're doing the budget. Thank you.

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The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I referred to Mr. Yakeleya and we'll keep the comments in mind.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Yakeleya. Thank you. Page 9-38, activity summary, information item, income security, active positions.