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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Minister. Would this agreement, with your crystal ball, I'm going to ask the Minister in terms of crystal balling these types of figures. Are we going to be close to this type of royalties in terms of numbers? I'm just going to ask the Minister if he could do some form of indication as to the type of royalties we're going to receive on this trademark. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Mr. Chairman, this is based on projections that come from the business planning that we've had the factories do. These are their estimates in terms of sales that they think they can make. Of course, I would also add that we've been pleasantly surprised with our Rare in Nature campaign, which is about branding, and marketing, and working with these factories to sell their product downstream. It is going very well and so it's possible that we will, in fact, exceed this, but we will only know, I guess, as we go forward. We're fairly confident that this is very achievable. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, I look forward to some further discussions as we get into this. So I'm going to leave it at that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Information item, revenue summary. Questions? Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In this same area of trademark royalties, I wanted to ask where, or in previous years, where these royalties had been directed to? They're showing up now, or they will start to show up as of April 1st in this department's revenue stream. Where did they go before and why is this department assuming this revenue in the coming year, Mr. Chair?

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Mr. Chairman, formerly, with Sirius, we had an agreement they were allowed to use our trademark polar bear. We had control over how that was used, but we weren't charging them for use of that. When we did the restructured agreement, we recognized that there was value in this asset and this was the deal we were able to arrive at with the two new ownership groups. So we weren't collecting royalties, is the short answer, in past, but we will be in future. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On another revenue stream here, I see something that is dropping off the page, is campground user fees. It's not a big deal here, $10,000. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, okay, we'll continue.

We showed $10,000 revenue coming into this department last year, but it's off the page this year. Can we look forward to free campground access, Mr. Chair?

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An Hon. Member

Good question.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Mr. Chairman, I understand in the past we were collecting this revenue and then giving it back to the campground operators, the contractors who were running the campgrounds for us. In fact, this is not about free campground space. I guess the money will be retained by the contractors. So it was an in and out and now the money is just kept by the contractors at the parks. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Okay. Who sets the fees, Mr. Chair?

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Mr. Chairman, the territorial government sets those fees.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

I guess I'll just have to go and make my own campground, Mr. Chair. Thanks very much, that's all.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Information item, revenue summary. Questions? Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Chair, I guess the status report on the outfitters' licence, we see $18,000 for the last three years. Is this continued just because it's a set price, grandfathered figure for these outfitters that we're not going to see any type of increases in the licence fee, or is it just that we have a low rate or something's already set in place that automatically they pay their licence and that's all that they bring in, a few bucks into the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Mr. Chairman, the rates for outfitting licences haven't changed recently over the last few years, but, as Mr. Ramsay pointed out, we are reviewing that legislation and that would be the next point that we would be sitting down to discuss as we come forward. We'll come forward in the House and then committee will take the bill out, and I think that would be the next time we would be talking about potentially any change in rates.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Mr. Yakeleya.