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Committee Motion 30-15(4): Recommendation To Remove The Socio-economic Impact Fund Senior Advisor Position, Carried
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Chair. I would just like to make a general comment on page 3 of 3, under the department requesting this money to participate in lands and resource self-government.

We have seen a historical event just recently with the new Tlicho government and self-government agreement being settled in the North here. It has been highly recognized in the North and also throughout Canada. Along with that, within that jurisdiction, I guess the Tlicho is now in power and also has the lawmaking on the 39,000 square kilometres of land that has been identified. Also, there are similar agreements with the Sahtu, the Inuvialuit and other land claim settlements that they have their own lawmaking powers thus creating community governance and capacity building in the communities along in the regions and also the communities to make their own choice and decisions. That has an impact on the communities and also the people of their communities.

Mr. Chair, I was kind of struck to see that there is a decrease in funding on these lands resources self-government negotiation for 2006-09. This is highly important in the North. It has always been stressed by First Nations that we need to settle our land claims. I realize that we are focussing a lot on resource revenue sharing. That is greatly beneficial for the North. We are fully aware of that. There are also devolution talks, more funding allocated towards that area, but I don't really see a huge decrease in funding in these areas, and here we are tackling our negotiation with land claims and self-government funding, spending decrease. I was kind of puzzled to see that, because every time we go to communities or even Dene Nation meetings or any First Nations' meetings, land claims is always on the table. Self-government is always on the table. They want to finalize those agreements immediately. It has been ongoing for a number of years. We are reaching a point where Tlicho, Sahtu, Inuvialuit and other respective parties have settled. Now I think we need to focus on Dehcho, Akaitcho and different areas to push it even further. I am sure there will be other questions relating to this matter. I am sure Mr. Yakeleya also brought it up that we need to focus in this area. At the appropriate time, Mr. Chair, when we discuss further in detail about the decrease in funding, I am sure we will be asking more questions in that area. Mahsi.

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Committee Motion 30-15(4): Recommendation To Remove The Socio-economic Impact Fund Senior Advisor Position, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Lafferty. There are no further general comments. We are on page 2-131, activity summary, Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations, operations expenditure summary, $7.328 million.

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Committee Motion 30-15(4): Recommendation To Remove The Socio-economic Impact Fund Senior Advisor Position, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Committee Motion 30-15(4): Recommendation To Remove The Socio-economic Impact Fund Senior Advisor Position, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Okay. We are on page 2-131. Mr. Menicoche.

Committee Motion 31-15(3): Recommendation To Hold Self-government And Land Claim Negotiations In Relevant Regions, Carried
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Mr. Chair, I move that this committee recommends that, whenever possible, the GNWT should actively seek to hold self-government and land claim negotiations in the relevant regions and to report back to the Accountability and Oversight committee on progress during review of the 2007-2010 draft business plans.

Committee Motion 31-15(3): Recommendation To Hold Self-government And Land Claim Negotiations In Relevant Regions, Carried
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The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The motion is in order. To the motion.

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Some Hon. Members

Question.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Question has been called. Oh, just one second. I am getting ahead of myself. We are going to distribute that motion.

Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Briefly and for the record, this is not a new item before committee or before this department or its predecessors. A tremendous resource of time and skill are brought into these negotiations, but we have seen very unproductive time and huge amounts of money have been spent travelling to different parts of the country to continue negotiations. I know that this same plea from committee has come up in several other previous years, that if we are going to be negotiating for the land and the people of the Northwest Territories, why is it not that at least the vast bulk of the negotiations could not occur on our own soil? That is the intent of this. This happened before. We continue to press this case with our own department and recognizing that we also want them to carry that message to Canada and the people we are negotiating with. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Braden. To the motion.

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Some Hon. Members

Question.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Thank you, committee. The motion is carried.

---Carried

---Applause

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Activity summary, Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations, operations expenditure summary, $7.328 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you. Page 2-134, activity summary, Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations, grants and contributions. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Chair, I want to again ask the Premier here, as the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs, in terms of the historical funding of Metis Nation grants. We have a huge budget here but, I believe, Mr. Chair, when you break it down, it comes out to $13,000 per Metis organization. I just want to confirm that first, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Yakeleya. Minister Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you. Yes, Mr. Chair. That works out to roughly 13,000 and some dollars for each of the locals. Mr. Chair, that is an amount of money, the $225,000, that used to be paid as a grant to the Metis Nation of the Northwest Territories. When it was disbanded, then the agreement from our government was to continue to make that fixed amount of money,

$225,000, and pay it out to the locals. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Handley. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, if you break down the $13,000 to the number of days per month for operation, so I am not going to get into that type of a discussion here. I want to ask the Premier, is there any type of consideration by his Cabinet or this government to certainly increase the $13,000 to what is now, some consideration in the future to properly consider this budget line item in the future for proper funding of a major organization such as the Metis Nation core funding? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chair, there have been individual requests for additional money, but the agreement made, when the NWT Metis Nation disbanded, was for the $225,000. We have not had the resources to be able to consider increasing that since, but we have stayed with the commitment we made at that time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Handley. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you. I appreciate the Minister's explanation on the reasons why they are not able to increase the funding even though those resources are limited and there has been a request for them. I am not too sure how we ask this in terms of this Minister gave us some reasons why they are not able to increase the funding for the Metis Nation locals here. I guess we have increased the funding in other areas. This one here, in the whole goals or vision of this Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs for $13,000, how do you expect to have a good relationship with the Metis locals and improve it? These are the forgotten children, I guess, forgotten families of the native or aboriginal organizations. You say this in your vision and your statement of goals. Something does not coincide here, Mr. Chair. I am having a hard time, Mr. Minister. I understand the lack of funding, the resources, yet we increase the funding for our own budget and that. We give a major Metis local organization down the valley this type of dollars, this $13,000; they should be really ashamed of themselves trying to promote these goals. I really don't understand. That is what I am getting at.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Yakeleya. Minister Handley.