Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With regard to the programs that we do have, we have

devolved over a period of time. I think a lot of the programs we do deliver, we are delivering on behalf of CMHC which are federal programs. We see a lot of our program dollars from CMHC such as emergency repair funding, EDAP funding and access funding. Because we are an agency that delivers program dollars, we have to follow the national standards. Because the standards we fall under, it may not look like we are being fair, but, in most cases, the programs we do deliver are for people who are at the lower end of the wage scale and also trying to get them to become homeowners and get them out of social housing, which the focus has been on over the last number of years.

We have to realize the other emphasis was to get people to go to the banks and get a mortgage and become homeowners and we assisted with their downpayment. These programs have devolved over a period of time and, like I mentioned earlier, we are looking at trying to consolidate our homeownership programs so that we have more flexibility. We tried to get away with setting amounts where once we exceed that, we can't help you. We have to get away from that mentality and try to find programs that are more flexible. Instead of trying to see which program you fit into, we have to find a way we can work with you and help you become homeowners. A lot of the emphasis that we have been focussing on in the past has been the area of homeownership, to get assistance through the banks for mortgages.

With regard to the Member's comments on the Supported Lease Program, it is a program that is identified to get people out of social housing and become homeowners, for those people who have lived in those units for a number of years. We want to ensure that they have the ability to pay the operational costs and the cost to maintain a home, and that will be taken into consideration. So those individuals, over that two-year period, will be monitored to ensure they will be able to do that. We don't want to set people up for failure, like the Member mentioned. We have a lot of people who got into the Access Program and then they were able to sustain themselves for a year, and then they had to give the units back. We want to get away from that so we don't have those situations.

With regard to the reorganization of the corporation, because direction was given by the Legislature to get out of the area of social housing and devolve that mandate to the Department of Education, we have to realize we still have responsibility to people in public housing. We have 2,300 units. We still have contractual arrangements with CHMC where we have to continue to deliver those. It's important that we do have annual reports that identify the different dollar amounts that are allocated and we do have audits done by the Auditor General every year which are tabled in this House. The Member has asked for information and I know there are certain confidential matters that do come by way of those applications, names and persons who may receive assistance from the government. So it's under ATIPP and I know that he doesn't want to hear that answer, but that's the answer we have to give. We do have federal legislation that we have to hold confidential information under.

So those are some of the responses to the Member's questions. I think the issues the Member is raising aren't new to the House. I heard the same issues we are talking about today 10 years ago. It's how we have to devolve and move with the times. Nothing changes, nothing changes. I think we do have to change the way housing is delivered in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.