That was on the record. That was not Mr. Braden speaking, Madam Chair. It was somebody else.

Madam Chair, could the Minister, with regard to his description of the various professions, advise how we are increasing and expanding our ability to grow our own workforce, and that is the very best kind of solution.

I guess what I am trying to do is get a quantitative idea of at least the degree of severity. Are we at 20 percent below our ideal capacity of registered nurses? Is there any kind of data like that? If it is not readily available, we can defer on that question, Madam Chair. Thank you.