This is page numbers 23 - 42 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was community.

Question 15-15(5): Infrastructure Needs Of Nunakput
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. The honourable Minister of Housing Corporation, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, Mr. Speaker, we are working with Municipal and Community Affairs. We have a planning team in place to look at what lots are available, what granular materials are there, and what has to be delivered. So we are working that into our transitional plan. For this year we have put out tenders, but most of those tenders that have been put are on the basis we do have lands available in those communities. Again, through the transitional plan that we're working on with MACA, we will be able to have a better idea what lands are available and what granular materials we're going to need over the next couple of years. We are working with the communities such as Tuktoyaktuk and we will have to identify those ground reserves and have to get them brought into the community over the winter road or make sure it's hauled during the winter season. So we are building that into the transitional plan to be able to deliver the housing that's going to be needed over the next three years. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Supplementary, Mr. Pokiak.

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My next question for the Minister is, like I said earlier, we're probably going to get 180-plus coming this year. I'm just wondering, those communities without lot development are in, if they can't find suitable lands, say, with claimant groups, what will happen to those units? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, we are hoping to meet the plan that is laid out, but in some situations where we either can't get the lots or the adequate gravel resources to put on these lots to build on, we will possibly carry that project over to the following year or identify a community where the materials could go. So we are going to be able to have a better handle on it once we complete the transitional plan that we're working with MACA on. We're working with communities. At that point, we will be able to bring that forward. So once the plan is prepared

and ready to go, I'm hoping to have that ready to bring back to committee and to Members of this House. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Supplementary, Mr. Pokiak.

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again, Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask the Minister on whether, like I said, we're on year one of construction of units, so I'm just wondering, can the Minister indicate to me whether, say in Tuktoyaktuk that the gravel that they need to build these units is available right now. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I believe the situation in Tuk this year we are going to be able to deliver the program because the units are going into Tuk. I believe we have one supported-lease program, which is a single-dwelling house, but the other unit is an eight-plex unit. But we are going to build that on existing property that's owned by the Housing Corporation and basically move the units that are presently condemned or not being used. So we will build on an existing site already in Tuk. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, Mr. McLeod.

Question 16-15(5): Membership On The Public Utilities Board
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions today are for the Minister of the Public Utilities Board, Mr. McLeod. I'd like to ask the Minister if there's any residency requirements to sit on the Public Utilities Board according to the act? Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for Public Utilities Board, Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first of all I guess I should point out that all our members that are on the Public Utilities Board, we have five members, all initially were appointed when they were all members of the Northwest Territories, they were all residents of the Northwest Territories. We have now, I believe, two members that no longer reside in the Northwest Territories, but we have the other three people who are from the Northwest Territories. Two recent appointments; one from the Mackenzie Delta and, more recently, one from Fort Smith. Mr. Speaker, I don't believe there is a residency required for appointment to the Public Utilities Board; however, we certainly want our members on the board to be residents from the Northwest Territories. In the case where we have now two members who reside out of the Territories, we decided that it would warrant their stay on the board because of their experience. They spent a lot of time on this board. One member was appointed in 1989 when he was a resident of Inuvik and so is the other member who no longer lives in the Northwest Territories. Both were members from Inuvik. They have a wealth of experience. We needed the people to stay on to ensure that we have a smooth transition because we have three new members as of late. So we wanted them to work together and have a smooth transition. Over the next while, the current chairperson has indicated to me that he would like to step down and look at retirement. We are looking at a time frame to accommodate that and to groom somebody up to the position where we can look at someone filling that position.

I would also like to point out that five of these positions that are there are all part-time positions. I will leave it at that, Mr. Chairman.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Supplementary, Mr. Robert McLeod.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

That was a long way to say no. Mr. Speaker, initially they did live in the Northwest Territories, but they no longer live in the Northwest Territories. The point I am trying to make is people who live in the Northwest Territories should be the people who are sitting on this board. So I would like to ask the Minister if he would introduce an amendment to the act that requires members of the board to be current residents of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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Some Hon. Members

Hear! Hear!

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Minister McLeod.

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Some Hon. Members

Yes! Yes!

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, the...

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Some Hon. Members

Speaker!

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, I'm sorry. The positions on this board are all part-time positions. We have one staff person that supports this board. The nature of the work is very technical, very time consuming. We need people who have the abilities to be able to analyze the applications that come forward, to know the act and they have to be very well versed of what is required in their duties. In this case, we have two people who are currently residing out of the Northwest Territories; however, they have a lot of experience. They spent many years on the board. They know how the board functions. They have indicated that we will work with the two new members. I have to point out, Mr. Speaker, that we did appoint two new members to the board in the last 10 months and they require some assistance while working through the transition period.

We will review. It's a difficult request that is being placed forward. At times, people move, retire and change where they live. We have to be able to accommodate that without leaving a void if somebody has to resign because

they no longer reside in the Territories, but we will consider that. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Time for question period has expired. However, I am going to allow the Member to finish his supplementary questions, but I think I would like to draw attention to Members on both sides of the House that time has expired and two Members have not asked questions yet. So please respect the rules regarding short supplementaries, both questions and answers. Robert McLeod, supplementary.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Minister's answer. I believe that expertise could also be found in the Northwest Territories amongst its current residents. Do we go down south and go to one of the legislative assemblies down there and look for two new Ministers? I don't think so. I would like to ask the Minister if...There was no notice given to the residents that this increase was coming. March 29th they were told as of April 1st that they would be getting an increase from 1.33 cents to 5.14. Now, for an increase that large should have been, a hearing should be held. I am wondering why there was only two days' notice and does the Minister review these decisions that are made? Thank you.

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The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. You are stepping into a different area of questioning here. I will allow the Minister to respond. Minister McLeod.