This is page numbers 43 - 76 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was report.

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Supplementary To Question 19-15(5): Costs Of Novel Housing Project
Question 19-15(5): Costs Of Novel Housing Project
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Krutko.

Further Return To Question 19-15(5): Costs Of Novel Housing Project
Question 19-15(5): Costs Of Novel Housing Project
Item 7: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the difference is the affordable housing will deliver 530 units, not 530 houses. Novel will deliver 830 houses. That is the difference. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 19-15(5): Costs Of Novel Housing Project
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Final, short supplementary, Ms. Lee.

Supplementary To Question 19-15(5): Costs Of Novel Housing Project
Question 19-15(5): Costs Of Novel Housing Project
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, I believe the difference is that we are paying for the premium to buy the cleanup of the yard for $28 million. We are paying project management costs in $20 million that we are not under the Affordable Housing Strategy. We are spending $21 million on financing and contingency. We are paying way extra under Novel than buying brand new manufactured homes or any other home. I would suggest to the Minister that he does his homework over again and this project is way far away from being done. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 19-15(5): Costs Of Novel Housing Project
Question 19-15(5): Costs Of Novel Housing Project
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. There is no question there. I would also like to remind members that question period is not an opportunity to make statements; it is just to ask questions. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I highlighted earlier in my Member's statement, the seriousness of an issue we are faced with in Behchoko on the discrepancies on public unit rent scale. I would like to ask the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. David Krutko. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister of the Housing Corporation advise this Assembly the amount of outstanding rent payments that have been accumulated over the years in Behchoko? Mahsi.

Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. Krutko.

Return To Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I don't have that information in front of me, so I will have to get back to the Member with that. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my next question leads to what has the corporation done to remedy the situation that we were faced with in the past and also currently? What is the department doing now to deal with the long-outstanding arrears in the community of Behchoko? Mahsi.

Supplementary To Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Krutko.

Further Return To Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in regards to the collection of rent, we all know it is a problem in most of our communities, but especially in Behchoko we had a problem over the last number of years where we had a contract that was out where very little collections were done. There was a mandate given to our housing authorities which they have to collect 90 percent of their income by way of collections. We are moving in that way. Some two years ago, the collection rate was somewhere in the range of nine percent. We are now in the process of being up to 75 percent. We have instructed our housing authorities to do a better job under collections. Because of that, we have been getting a lot of bad press in that area. Again, in order to operate our units in the communities, we have to generate revenues with the change of our mandate and the $30 million that was given to Education in regards to the rent supps that are out there that now they have to go to basically the Department of Education, Culture and Employment to recoup that income. We are doing a better job on collections. I know that people have concerns on that. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the corporation's been mandated to look into collection of the arrears in Behchoko. At the same time, I am just wondering if the corporation was looking to investigate the discrepancies on the rent scales that have occurred and what they have come up with to address this situation where the client has been charged the wrong amount for rent. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Krutko.

Further Return To Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we do allow the members to sit down with the people within the communities in regards to our housing authorities. If they have a discretion in regards to the amount that they are being paid, there is a process that they can go through in regards to working out a payment plan and also bringing in the verification on what their incomes were when that income was assessed. I think the problem that we are running into is because people work in the diamond industry and are moving in and out of the community where people are being hindered, especially our seniors, with seeing a major increase in their rent. Again, we are telling our authorities to sit down with each of the clients, go through exactly where the discretions are, come to an arrangement on what the amount is and work out a payment plan so that they are able to pay off the arrears over the period of time. As long as they agree to pay their rent along with a little more towards their arrears, we can work out those payment plans for these individuals. There is a process that they can go through to resolve this issue without being evicted. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Final supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in light of the 1,300 plus units and houses going through the North, the Tlicho community will certainly benefit from some of them. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister commit today in this Assembly to expedite, to initiate a joint task force with a representative from Behchoko general public, one from Rae Band board member and one from YK district office to investigate and re-evaluate the rental scales and reasons for outstanding rental arrears on the 80 plus public units in Behchoko? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Krutko.

Further Return To Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as we all know, we do have a different arrangement now by way of how we do our collections because of the subsidy going to Education. I think we also have included them. So I am open to sitting down with my colleague, Mr. Dent, and yourself to see if there is a process that we can use here and try to find an arrangement that we all can move forward with. I do believe that it is a process that is being phased in. I think people are having some problems understanding exactly the differences between what we are doing now in housing and what is under the responsibility of income support by way of the subsidy that has been transferred to them. Also, in regards to the arrears in the communities, we have to find ways there again. So I am open to working with the Member and my colleague, Mr. Dent, in trying to find a solution to this problem. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
Question 20-15(5): Outstanding Rent Payments In Behchoko
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Question 21-15(5): Denial Of Support Payments
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today my Member's statement was about the denial of what I would call natural justice. I have called into question a regulation that is in writing that our bureaucrats are following. Mr. Speaker, just because it is in writing, it doesn't make it morally correct. Could the Minister of EC and E explain to this House today and the public that is listening about the fairness of the policy where, at no fault of the client, they have been denied their rightful support payments? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't know specifically which policy the Member would be speaking of. I don't believe that we have policies in place that are intended to harm our residents. I can say that while a regulation is in place, the Minister has no ability to overturn it, but a Minister can change a regulation. If regulations are brought to my attention that are causing problems with our residents or have unintended consequences, as soon as I am aware of that, I issue instructions that the regulations be reviewed and changed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.