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Further Return To Question 32-15(5): Funding For Non-government Organizations
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In a specific request as we'd look at variances or the request for further funding, again, each organization would approach the department responsible for the particular area they are delivering a service and put their requirements in. The department would then, as part of their forced growth submission for the upcoming year, include them in their forced growth submission. So, for example, if an NGO was working with the Department of Health and Social Services or a board, one of the health boards out there, they would put in their request and if the board is accepting of that, would move their request forward to the Department of Health and Social Services. If there was agreement there, then it would come forward in overall Health and Social Services requests for forced growth. There lies the problem. On an annual basis would come forward for forced growth requests. They would have to go through our process and get approved and then be put into the business plan submissions. So that goes back to why we have to, on an annual basis, move forward. Even though there may be a multi-year agreement, it ultimately comes back to this process we use. So these organizations that have requested funding increases from the department, it's included in their forced growth submissions as we prepare for the next budget cycle. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Final supplementary, Mr. Braden.

Supplementary To Question 32-15(5): Funding For Non-government Organizations
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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The process is well defined and well understood even with some of its problems, but I guess what I am looking for, Mr. Speaker, is a clear understanding and an acceptance of the fact that NGOs are really being squeezed by a tough job market. What is our readiness to step up to the plate and help them continue to survive, Mr. Speaker?

Supplementary To Question 32-15(5): Funding For Non-government Organizations
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think all departments as we enter this next phase of business plan preparations come forward for a request for forced growth. There is going to be, I guess, quite a competition between departments as for their request and what gets approved, because ultimately the requests far outweigh the resources we have and we'll have to make some decisions based on that. We had recognized that NGOs delivering programs on our behalf are impacted and that's why in a number of organizations, for example, we laid out the third-party accountability framework, which will allow us to move into the multi-year funding stages that are being requested. Secondly, there needs to be recognition that as all departments review these, what areas are a primary delivery of what we call would normally fall under our responsibility and those areas we have recognized in a number of areas and allowed forced growth to come forward as in previous years they have not. In other organizations somewhat removed, it would become more difficult, but they work with each department and those departments would increase or include those in their forced growth submissions. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Oral questions. The honourable Member from Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Question 33-15(5): Consideration For Safe Communities Legislation
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'm committed to finding innovative enforcement tools to make our communities and our neighbourhoods safer. We all know that crack houses unfairly can take a community area hostage by putting good citizens in jeopardy in horrible ways that I've talked about in my Member's statement. I brought forward a copy of the Safe Communities and Neighbourhood Act to the Justice Minister and I will be tabling a copy later today. So my question to the Minister of Justice is, has he had a chance to look at the act and open up some type of dialogue between his provincial counterparts on the usage of this type of act in the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Minister responsible for Justice, Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the information from the Member and his support and advocacy for having us look at new and innovative ways to ensure community safety. This is something that we've been pursuing for quite some time. We have looked at other jurisdictions, looked at similar models. There are about four Canadian provinces, three Canadian provinces and one territory right now, with similar legislation and we have been in discussion with these provinces and territories to understand how effective this legislation and the enforcement of it has been. So we are analyzing models. This is something I think I look forward to having further discussions with Members about, but certainly there is some validity to continuing to challenge ourselves to find new and effective ways to make our communities safe. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Supplementary To Question 33-15(5): Consideration For Safe Communities Legislation
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, Justice Minister, for that answer. Mr. Speaker, this is truly an important issue to me and it is an important issue to the citizens in Yellowknife Centre and, to no surprise, I'm sure the whole Northwest Territories. So I should put the Justice Minister on notice that I will truly be relentlessly pursuing this issue for the next several months to ensure that we will be bringing forward a safe neighbourhood enforcement tool to our enforcement people. So, therefore, would the Minister be willing to look at this act, look at a way of adopting this type of act and bringing it

forward as a discussion paper sometime in the fall so Members can look at doing something in a timely way within our Territories so we can get the enforcement people the right enforcement tools to help our streets be safe? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 33-15(5): Consideration For Safe Communities Legislation
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I'll certainly come forward in that time frame for a discussion with committee. I think we need to understand what the best options for us are. In other jurisdictions I think there are new offices that are created that are really outside the work that the RCMP are doing and we have to have a discussion around what the best model for the Northwest Territories would be. I think this community safety approach is something that I'm supportive of, but I want to understand the cost benefit. You have to ask yourself if we'd be better served to put the resources into the RCMP to help them do their job. I don't know the answer to that question, Mr. Speaker, but it's one that I want to pursue, discuss, analyze, and I'll certainly be back to committee to look at this and other options. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Oral questions. The honourable Member from Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Question 34-15(5): Exploring Options To Meet Housing Needs Other Than Convertible Workforce Housing
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the Minister of Housing Corporation. Mr. Speaker, I should say that, as I stated yesterday, I believe this government is going down the right path in terms of providing affordable housing in our communities that are desperately needed under the Affordable Housing Initiative. Mr. Speaker, by spending $100 million over the next three years, we're going to build 530 units. That's a great use, and in the process we're going to build infrastructure and capacity in communities and we need to continue that. What I would like to see, what I see is that this $200 million plus budgeted for ATCO Novel project should at least be given the consideration as to what else could we do with that $200 million. Could we continue to build 530 at $100 million by doing multi-plexes and such, which ATCO Novel project does not allow? So I'd like to know, does the Minister not think that he should at least look at all options? Does he not think that he should take off his ATCO Novel sunglasses and look at other options? You know, at the end of the day that might be the best project, but there's no due diligence. So I would like to know, would Minister commit to looking at what possible options are there for $200 million? Thank you.

Question 34-15(5): Exploring Options To Meet Housing Needs Other Than Convertible Workforce Housing
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there's probably a million options out there for $200 million, but the option that Novel provides is one chance in a lifetime to take advantage of a major activity, which is happening in the Northwest Territories via construction of a pipeline, which will leave behind a legacy, which basically that often only comes by once in a lifetime. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Supplementary, Ms. Lee.

Supplementary To Question 34-15(5): Exploring Options To Meet Housing Needs Other Than Convertible Workforce Housing
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, I believe too that this could be one chance in a lifetime to get a major, major boondoggle. So, Mr. Speaker, I really think that seriously this government has to start comparing apples to apples. The biggest incentive for this ATCO Novel housing is that it is so much cheaper than building stick built, and I agree with that because it costs up to $190 per square foot to build stick built. But it's about time for the government to compare these used trailers with brand new trailers. Would the Minister do an analysis of how much it would cost us to get 830 new mobile homes instead of going through all the liability and buying used workforce housing and converting them and transporting them and not knowing really what we are getting into? Would the Minister at least give that a consideration? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 34-15(5): Exploring Options To Meet Housing Needs Other Than Convertible Workforce Housing
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Krutko.

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June 1st, 2006

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, we're already in the process of doing that. That information is being compiled. We are making sure that all logistic costs, the total cost of the project will be financially sound and that we are not going forward until we have that information in front of us. The information is being compiled today. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Third supplementary, Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to accept that, but I have to be alarmed by that because we were told by the officials from the department saying that we're getting calls from all over the place, but none of them work, none of them will work, we're not going to look at it. That is a very irresponsible thing for the government to do for a $200 million project. I need an objective analysis to make sure that we're spending $200 million well. So would the Minister tender this project? At least do a request for proposals. What does he have to lose? If this project could stand on its own, it will win. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Supplementary To Question 34-15(5): Exploring Options To Meet Housing Needs Other Than Convertible Workforce Housing
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Krutko.

Further Return To Question 34-15(5): Exploring Options To Meet Housing Needs Other Than Convertible Workforce Housing
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, like I said earlier in my comments, this is one chance that we're looking at. It's an ambition that's looked on by CMHC, ourselves, the federal government are involved, we're involved. Where we can see a 40 percent saving in regards to delivering housing in the Northwest Territories, we will definitely look at it. Thank you.