Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know that a lot of LHOs around the NWT say their needs are so and so, but basically they just want to be treated fair and equitable with other communities of the NWT. Everybody wants their fair share. That is understandable. I want to mention to the Minister, with this housing authority, I don't see people pounding on the Yellowknife Housing Authority's door to ask for more public housing. If I see an ad in the paper for rent, like subsidized public housing, in the newspaper, I know it is for information only but it is also advertising that, hey, we have public housing available. Come and ask us. Just with that point there, Mr. Speaker, sometimes that need is kind of taken a little bit too top heavy. We have to address it. Is the Minister going to revisit those needs? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again, we are just completing a census in regards to the Northwest Territories. I think, once we have the final census done, it will give us an idea exactly what the needs are for here in Yellowknife, what the different classes of need we are looking at. Again, it was based on surveys that we did. It has been identified by the Yellowknife authorities to say exactly where they want to see us invest this money. Again, it is something that we will have to look at. By reviewing the existing surveys, we will be able to see where that need is. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Time for question period has expired. I will allow the Member for one last, final supplementary. Mr. Villeneuve. Okay. The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to return to item 6, oral questions. Thank you.

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to return to item 6, oral questions. Are there any nays? There are no nays. We will return to Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the Minister of Public Works and Services. I am trying to understand how it is that a report on the Dene K'onia facility in Hay River, which was last year discussed as a renovation project to house the territorial treatment centre, came out on January 11, 2006, and Public Works and Services issued a request for tender in an April newspaper here in the Northwest Territories requesting quotes to demolish the Dene K'onia facility in Hay River and subsequently yanked that tender. I am trying to, again, understand how it is that the report

comes out in January and Regular Members find out about the change in the scope of the project via an ad that his department issued in April. The first question I have for the Minister is, if the report came out in January, why did we have to find out about it via a newspaper ad? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The honourable Minister of Public Works and Services, Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as the normal process is, when a department has an approved project to have work done on and they come forward to Public Works and Services, they request information on, for example, if it is the best thing to do, is do a renovation, then we would provide a report on the things that would need to be done, location, ground conditions, foundation. So we do a report on the existing facility and come up with what potential work would need to be done as part of the renovation. As part of that, we would also look at the cost-benefit analysis. If, in fact, the renovation that is being looked at comes in at a higher cost or if we do a review and suggest that possibilities are that we would get better value for our dollars spent by going to a new project instead of a major renovation, we would prepare that report, give a number of options to the department and wait for their response. In that case, a report was done, provided for the Department of Health and Social Services to come up with what the department would agree to on those options. Then it would follow through on the regular process of their decision-making. When the decision was made, it would come back to Cabinet and then be issued. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister and I, in his capacity as Minister responsible for the Financial Management Board, had numerous discussions regarding whether or not the Financial Administration Manual directives were followed in this project last year. Again, the questions came up in discussions with the Minister of Health and Social Services over whether or not the FAM directive was indeed followed. I want to get back to the communications. I want to know specifically what communications took place between Health and Social Services and the Department of Public Works in the period between January 11th and the time the ad came out in the newspaper in April. What communications specifically took place from your department to the Department of Health and Social Services? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we can take up the rest of the day if we want on the FAM directive that we spoke about in the past. In fact, all of our correspondence and records show that we followed that. In fact, we have tightened it up to bring some more clarity for Members. I have a copy of that. It is a letter we provided Members, as well, in this House. The actual communications that went by, I haven't asked my department for a day-by-day process. The report was done as is normal process for Public Works and Services on the review of our facilities. It was handed over to the Department of Health and Social Services. I am not sure what date that was. The Member stated that the report was completed on January 11th. I would have to see when we actually forwarded it to Health and Social Services for their decision to be made by them, come back to us and inform us what their decision was. In this case, they chose a replacement instead of a renovation. A tender was put out for demolition. Now, there was an error made there. Instead of communications between the Department of Health and Social Services and Public Works that saw a release of that tender when, in fact, that tender should not have been released. We had some other processes we needed to follow through. That was why that was pulled back. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. A short supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is nice to see that the departments are communicating with one another on a really politically sensitive issue like the Dene K'onia facility and the relocation of the TTC, but, Mr. Speaker, when were Regular Members of this House going to be let in on the fact that the plan was to demolish Dene K'onia, a facility in Hay River, to accommodate the construction of a new TTC in Hay River? When were you going to let us know? You are the Minister responsible for the Financial Management Board. When were you going to let us know that this was the case, Mr. Speaker? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The fact is there is no tender out there. It has been recalled, as I stated already and as the Members are well aware. The communications within the departments were discussed. The choices were made by the Department of Health and Social Services. The Department of Public Works and Services went out for a tender on that. Further discussions, when it came up, realizing that it should not have gone out, that processes had to be followed, it was pulled back. The Department of Health and Social Services made a decision that it wanted to go down the replacement instead of renovation. The Minister has brought it back for the discussion at that point. We would follow through on the processes that we have established clearly in our FAM directive. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The Chair is recognizing the fact that Members are choosing to make a Member's statement with every supplementary question. Your rules specifically state that supplementary questions are to be very short and follow up to your original question. So I would like to encourage Members to try and keep your questions as short as possible, and

answers as well, so that we can get more questions asked and answered in the House. Also, I would like to remind Members that questions are to be directed to the Speaker, not directly to a Minister. All questions have to be directed to the Speaker. Thank you, Members.

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Final, short supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, a final supplementary. Who is responsible in the Department of Public Works and Services for issuing that tender? I would like a chronology, as well, of the discussions that took place between Health and Social Services and the Department of Public Works and Services between January 11th and the date that tender was issued in the newspaper. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ultimately, it comes down to the Minister being responsible, whether it is a contract clerk further down the system that got a phone call that said this is the decision made. We need to issue a contract. There is a chain of command there. Ultimately, I will be responsible for that decision that was made, as well as the decision to pull it back when we knew we had to go through a number of other steps. That was done. I will pull together some information on this and be prepared to show the Members. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.