Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There are a couple of points I would like to make and I have a couple of questions on some of the numbers that are before us. Listening to my two colleagues talk about the housing issue and the income support issue, the housing issue is something that I have been speaking to since it happened; the transfer. I had many cases before the October session where I had concerns brought to me by constituents, by focus groups, with the problems they were running into and how they thought it wasn't working for them.

Lately, I have been seeing and hearing less and less, but I don't think it's because they are happy with it. I think it's because they think nobody is listening to them. They are just not going to do anything, so why bother? I think that's unfortunate. I wanted to make that point because it was a concern, it is a concern, but I have been hearing less and less and I think they believe we are not listening to them, so why bother wasting their breath talking to us.

The second point I want to make is on the income support. Now my understanding is that the income support funds used to be distributed by the social worker. Talking to a couple of veteran social workers who have been around for 25 or 30 years, know what they are doing, they used to administer the income support payments and they would monitor, not just give them a cheque and have them walk out the door and out of sight, out of mind. They would monitor, they would see them at the store, make sure they were buying the right type of groceries. That has been taken away from them and the funds are now administered by an income support worker who doesn't really monitor. They are just there to punch a cheque and out you go.

So if you are going to do an income review, something you should seriously look at is monitoring them. There are plenty of people out there, there are some people out there who generally need the income support and I am all for it. There are people with disabilities, especially the elders. I am going to pose a written question to the Minister tomorrow on the amount of clients between the ages of 18 and 30 who are on income support, their gender and their level of education. I always recall a story I heard a couple of years ago about a guy who was offered a summer job supervising students in one of the communities. He said, no, I am not gong to take it because I am doing better on income support. So there are people who genuinely need it and those are the ones we should be helping. I also believe that we've spoiled people; we've made people lazy. I think we have to monitor them, give them the productive choices they are supposed to be making. We talk about a highway down the valley. Have them clear brush. Get it started. That's a productive choice.

Those are just a couple of points I wanted to make on some of the comments following up on some of the comments of my colleagues. Two questions I do have on the numbers, Mr. Chairman, are the contract services, $32.876 million. I am curious as to what that's for. Is that for the Housing Corporation?

The other number is the $19.516 million. I am curious about that number, too. I would like to know where those two numbers are, because I think I see further on the money going to public housing rental subsidies of $33 million, but this is a $32 million figure. Perhaps if the Minister could give me where these two amounts are going. Thank you.