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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. Minister.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Ingraham Trail, Highway No. 4, is a public highway and we are responsible for public highways, so we continue to maintain that road and keep it in safe driving condition, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Anything further, Mr. Pokiak?

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't think we are getting anywhere with this one, but I will continue to pursue this issue with them anyway. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Thank you, committee. We are on page 9-23, activity summary, highways, operations expenditure summary, $42.786 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Page 9-29, activity summary, ferries, operations expenditure summary, $6.429 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

I am going to allow Mr. Pokiak to take the chair. I just had some questions on this page.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you. Page 9-29, activity summary, ferries, operations expenditure summary, $6.429 million. Mr. Ramsay.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am just wondering if the Minister could explain -- and I know we have repatriated some positions -- but when I do the math here it doesn't quite add up to what would amount to be what the contact would be and then what we are paying. If you look at compensation and benefits, we are at $1.9 million. The '05-06 actuals were $776,000. That's an increase of about $1.1 million. Then our contract services, the actuals in '05-06 were $3.18 million. They've come down in the '07-08 mains as $2.5 million. So that's about $600,000. So there is a discrepancy there and I just wanted to get the Minister to explain to me that discrepancy. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Menicoche.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With regard to what looks to a significant increase to the Member, absolutely, there were many, many changes that occurred as a result of repatriation. Some of it was for forced growth. I will try to detail as much as I can. For compensation and benefits, from the '06-07 mains of $658,000, the increase covers five main areas; the Collective Agreement for the Members that are there, there's a increase of $16,000; northern allowance funding adjustments of $6,000; marine service reorganization of $535,000; from contract services is $855,000; and, we've also deducted $195,000 for marine service reorganization to highways. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Ramsay.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What was the cost of the contract that we had prior to the repatriation of the services? I am just trying to do the math and see what that was in relation to the additional cost the government is now incurring. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Menicoche.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What we had done is we had reduced our contract services by $855,000 and that was reallocated into compensation and benefits. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Ramsay.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Then in your mains at $2.5 million, why is it not $858,000 less in the mains on contract services? If you go off the actuals from '06, it's about $600,000. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Menicoche.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The contract services did go up in other areas as well. There was the fuel increase allocation of $143,000, as well as marine service reorganization of $306,000.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Ramsay.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Another question in this area. I am just wondering what it cost the Government of the Northwest Territories to get out of the existing contract we had with the service provider when we repatriated the positions. Where would I find how much that cost and where we account for it? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Menicoche.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For that level of detail, I will turn it over to deputy minister Russell Neudorf.