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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Next on the list I have Mr. Villeneuve.

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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Chair. Just a quick question on some wildlife management issues dealing with wildlife habitat and impacts on wildlife from human activity in reference to the Taltson hydro dam that is still in operation and still has a lot of impact on hunters and trappers up and down the Taltson area. One trapper was showing me pictures from last December of water levels coming right up to his cabin, flooding out his dog houses, flooding his cabin out. He said every year, in the springtime...In December there is a high demand for power, the gates are opened, the water levels come up, the beavers are forced out of their lodges out on top to prevent them from drowning but they wind up freezing to death anyway.

So each spring, he says, there are hundreds and hundreds of beaver carcasses on the river. Is there any wildlife monitoring and mitigating and compensation? Are there any compensation issues that should be addressed with the people in the area especially if they have pictures of things that are going on? I think probably the onus is on the Power Corporation to ensure that there is some sort of monitoring agency that does it for them so they get their water licences renewed. Does the wildlife management section of ENR provide for something as drastic as that? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Villeneuve. Mr. Minister.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the project is under NCPC and that corporate body would be the people that would have to be dealing with any formal compensation along with ITI. Our role would be to gather the information, and if there is a form of complaint or a concern, we'd certainly have our renewable resources officer, I think it's Lutselk'e that the Member is referring to or Resolution. So through those communities we have officers in those communities and we certainly would take that information forward or document it for the Member.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Anything further, Mr. Villeneuve?

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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

No, thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll take the Minister's positive response on that forum and I know it's an NWT Power Corp issue and I have raised it with them and it seems to have fallen on deaf ears all the time. These trappers are providing photographic proof. I saw the pictures and there's obvious flooding going on there in the middle of December. So we've definitely got some issues there to deal with and I think he said he's even showed them to the Power Corp personnel and they said it's a compensation issue that's been long gone, it's done, it's history, it's Government of Canada when it was NCPC, I think. So basically he's just getting sloughed off and I think he's spoken to renewable resource officers and they're basically telling him there's no real permanent damage. It's basically flooding out his cabin and once the water recedes and his cabin seems to be okay, it's still standing, but that's not the issue for him. The issue for him is basically the wildlife issue. So I'll just give your department a heads up and maybe they can just relay the information down to their renewable resource officer to maybe touch base with them and I'll let you know who it is at some other time, but maybe to go out there in the springtime and see if there are hundreds of beaver carcasses floating down the river after the ice flows because that's what he's telling me. I think it's something that we should really be addressing anyway if that Taltson expansion project has any glimmer of hope of going through. Just a comment. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. I see the department officials taking notes on that. Thank you, committee. We are on page 11-31. I have Mr. Pokiak next.

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll leave it to your discretion I guess, I'm going to ask a question in regard to the wildlife and the maintaining of wildlife, more specific towards the caribou I guess because of what's happening over the last year or so. I'd like to ask the Minister, Mr. Chairman, there's been aerial surveys done over the last year or so and they've been working with the co-management boards in terms of the harvesting of the herds. I'm just wondering if the Minister will continue to work with these co-management boards to make sure that they can sustain the level it is now. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. I'll leave it up to the Minister as to whether he'd like to answer that question. Thank you.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, we'll certainly answer part of the question and that is to commit to working with the co-management boards.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Minister. Anything further, Mr. Pokiak?

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Thank you. Just one last question for the follow-up here. In working with the co-management boards, does the department do that on a monthly basis or so just to make sure that they are keeping in line with or keeping in contact with them to make sure that things can be sustained? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. Minister.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, we have members on the board that meet on a regular basis.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Minister. Thank you, committee. We are on page 11-31, activity summary, wildlife, operations expenditure summary, $13.281 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Page 11-33, activity summary, wildlife, grants and contributions, contributions, $255,000, total grants and contributions, $255,000. Mr. Villeneuve.

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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I've just got a quick question on the support of natural resources and environmental issues contributions from $322,000 down to zero. Maybe I could just get some clarification on that.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. Where exactly...Oh, you're talking the '05-06 actuals?

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you for the clarification, Mr. Villeneuve. Mr. Minister.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, we'll have Nancy Magrum speak to the issue.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Ms. Magrum.

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Magrum

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The contributions various are one-time contributions, they're not ongoing contributions. So they are above what we regularly budget for in contributions and we have a list of the contributions that we expended in 2005-2006. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Ms. Magrum. Anything further, Mr. Villeneuve?