Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, I'll give credit where credit is due to the Minister of ENR, because we certainly saved a lot of energy by doing nothing, Mr. Speaker. So the fact is why can't we get out there and have this type of discussion, Mr. Speaker? Why can Vancouver have bylaws that we could be doing here in legislation? Why is the Minister afraid of having these discussions? Would he commit to getting out there and having some discussion papers out there, talking to people about real energy saving plans that everybody can buy into? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.