Thank you, Mr. Chairman. One of the other issues -- and I'll pick up where my colleague Ms. Lee had questions about Stanton -- one of the concerns that I've heard from management at that facility is the fact that managers, and you pick a ward, pick an area of operation in that hospital, managers end up dealing more with staffing issues and concerns from the staff than they do managing their area of operation. I'd like to ask the Minister, what support is out there within this department of HR to try to get some assistance for Managers on the ground, in our health centres, so that their day is not spent on the phone talking about staffing issues or in an office in a meeting with staff dealing one on one with staffing issues and, in fact, they should be left to manage the unit or the area of operation and not deal with staffing issues all day long. I think that's part of the problem, Mr. Chairman. I'd like to ask the Minister how he could address that.