Twenty-five dollars, according to my Sahtu colleague. The thing is, I'm not sure he's right, but the point is if we could make things more competitive, maybe we can also help those costs from being spilt down on people and we can also help encourage them to have healthier lifestyles, Mr. Speaker. Conservation versus consumption, it's great. Conservation is the right idea; change your light bulbs, those things all help. I've gone to Arctic Energy Alliance and I borrowed their metre, I plugged it in the wall, I tested my TV for a couple days, my computer to find out ways I could be more competitive, but you have to look at the bigger picture. Not everyone can afford a brand new washer and dryer to drop their consumption rates and not everyone can run out immediately and buy a brand new fridge. So competitiveness in this area is difficult. But speaking about competitiveness, if we're trying to attract nurses to a community that they're paying $1,000 or more for a power bill, why would they want to go there if they're going to be paid the same amount in Yellowknife or the same amount in B.C.? I mean why would they want to go to an area that costs them two or three times more to live? So it's about being competitive because if we can't attract people there, they're not going to make any money. So we sort of have to recognize the value of those types of problems.

Mr. Speaker, in closing I just want to say that although all these rates are based on Yellowknife and that's what's coming into question and may be part of the challenge, as a Yellowknife Member I certainly have no issue with this being examined. I have no hesitation because the fact is if we're making it unbearable for people to live out there, I mean we have to question our values. Are we helping people? From the sounds of it, we're probably not. So that's why this motion says what it says, which is we have to make life more affordable for people who live out there. So I thank my colleagues Mr. Pokiak and certainly Mr. Yakeleya for bringing this forward. Mr. Yakeleya has brought this forward for three and a half years, so now that the motion is on the floor of the House it will probably be a little quiet for now on this issue until the 16th Assembly probably. So maybe we'll get some breathing space. Very good motion, thank you.

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