Well, I guess it's a case of he said/she said now, because he's going by what the department is telling him and I am telling you, Mr. Speaker, from the perspective of Northstar, the government has to recognize that it costs more to run a business here. The counsellors for Northstar are paid more. They have their offices here. This other business could run a counselling service over the phone and keep all their administrative structure down south giving them an advantage. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister, is he not concerned about the fact of Northstar not having this contract and not having their presence in the community that we are seeing a complete destruction of a counselling service, social infrastructure in the North. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.