Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The specific arrangements between the government and Deze or another subsidiary that's doing the borrowing, at this point in time we haven't got those determined because that will be project specific. It will be what's the purpose of the borrowing and what's the circumstances around each one. The intent here is that the project would stand on its own. So the project would have to be able to finance the debt and the carrying charges on that debt out of the revenues

associated with the project. So we're not looking for a direct government contribution towards the capital costs of the project.

Where the government role normally would come in backstopping or in supporting the project would be to give comfort to the financiers that the revenue flow in the long term will be there to retire the debt. So it's a potentially contingent liability for the government if, for some reason, the mine life didn't extend as long as possible, as long as required to retire the full amount of the debt. So that's the area where we may -- I use the term "may" -- need some government backstop because we don't know that yet. That will really depend on the structure of the project, the results of negotiations with the mines and the requirements of the financial providers as to what they need to feel comfortable lending that money. So I can't give you a specific answer other than to say it's not the intention that the government would be subsidizing these projects.