Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, I think the Minister just accurately coined out the problem because the fact is, he's come up with a new process for land that's already been requested and already been approved because, Mr. Speaker, it wasn't that long ago that the City of Yellowknife applied for that area of land and it was okay because it went through the IMA, no applications came in from a third party interest to stop it. So the fact is, it was already heading over to the side of the City of Yellowknife with no problem, but yet the MACA Minister slows it down. It's still going to the same people, Mr. Speaker. The MACA Minister could do this today; the MACA Minister could solve this problem today. Maybe if he'd look and talk to his colleague sitting right next to him, that's also the area of the city he represents. So maybe he would want to work together more closely in this Assembly to solve these problems. Will he do this today? He can do it today. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. McLeod.

Mr. Speaker, we've been working close with everybody. My office has even kept the Member in the loop. We have indicated that we'll transfer the land to the city. We've done the consultation; we have all the necessary requirements for us to start that process today. If the transfer is going to be to anyone else other than the city, then that changes the land tenure and that would require us to go through another consultation process, Mr. Speaker. That is the process and I apologize to the Member if he misunderstood that, but the process is right now that we go to a new consultation process if there is anyone else in the city other than the city that applies for it. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Oral questions. The honourable Member from Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask my questions today to the Minister of Health and Social Services. It's following up on the issues of space use of the hospital and other health care facilities in the city. Mr. Speaker, we know about the master plan of the Stanton Hospital that's been in the works for years but it hasn't really moved that far, but they're having other activities happening. There have been major renovations at the Frame Lake health care facility there, in Great Slave, and there's also a major initiative to consolidate Yellowknife clinics, but what is happening I think is that there has not been adequate consultation or at least the people are not aware of this facility and why what's going to happen to it and how it fits into the master plan or how it fits into the hospital. I've had health care professionals, as well as the users, asking or making suggestions about how to do this better. So I'd like to ask the Minister to give an update as to what the department has in the works in terms of consultation and public input process? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Member is correct that there is work done on this and part of the problem is we've worked with a lot of organizations, the Yellowknife Health and Social Services

Authority, Stanton and other groups, but a lot of the work has been done quite some time ago. The idea of the consolidated clinics has been on the books for some time within the department looking how we can proceed with this and if there's an opportunity to move it forward. It goes back into an annual basis where when we do our budget planning, if we don't have a contract let on a facility, all of our projects go back into the mix and get re-evaluated. At this point, we're back into the business planning session and we have to make our arguments once again how to proceed and go on that basis. So right now there's more discussion on that, looking at what options there are and we've made some investment in the number of clinics trying to do some of that work up front, but there is much yet to be done and we're still a ways away from that as we continue to plan and proceed on that front. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Supplementary, Ms. Lee.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I don't know if the Minister is aware of this, but the last information I received, probably early in the summer, was that Yellowknife Health and Social Services Board, which I believe is the driver of consolidating Yellowknife clinics, was going to set up a steering committee that would look at this consolidation of Yellowknife clinics. Part of their responsibility was to find a space whether to build a new space or to use existing space, but the important point I got out of that was that there was going to be a steering committee. I would like to ask the Minister if he would talk to them to make sure that that steering committee will include a meaningful consultation process from the users so that everybody could have a say on what is to happen to these consolidated clinics. Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as stated earlier, we will work with the appropriate bodies in place to try and come up with a plan on how we can proceed with this project and how, in fact, we can do that. That is why the work is being done in the manner it is. We would consult with the appropriate groups to ensure that there is input gained as we go through this whole scenario. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Supplementary, Ms. Lee.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am not clear what the Minister means when he says "we," because I am assuming that is the Government of the Northwest Territories, but my understanding is that the driver of this project is really Yellowknife Health and Social Services Board. I believe there is a distinction. I am going to ask the specific question again to the Minister. Would the Minister commit to asking the Yellowknife Health and Social Services Board to provide us with the information on what the terms of reference or the work plan and consultation plan is with respect to this project as soon as possible? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When I say "we," ultimately, working with the Health and Social Services authorities and when we talk about infrastructure dollars and how we proceed in the delivery of service in any community, the department gets involved in that process. Of course, different authorities take the lead on a number of initiatives. In this case, the Yellowknife Health and Social Services is the lead on this initiative, but, as a department, we are definitely plugged in on that and we will work with them. We will pass on the information. As we proceed, we would, being the department, make presentation to committees as we proceed down this path. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Final supplementary, Ms. Lee.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just to be more specific, I believe that the government has already approved money for this, so this sort of plan should already be in place, really. Could I ask the Minister to get back to us as to exactly how the stakeholders such as doctors and other people who are going to be providing services and the users' specific information on how they are going to be consulted as to what is the best way to do this consolidated clinics in its relation to the hospital and other health care facilities that is going to be the key component of service delivery? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will get more detailed information so that I can provide it to the Member. As the Member stated, a lot of work has been done. This is not a new idea. Yes, as a department, we have allocated what we think would be the necessary amounts, but we haven't, as I stated earlier, as we go through business plans, unless we have a contract initiated and dollars approved by this Assembly, we have to go back into the whole plan and the mix and then justify our plan as we proceed forward. But I will get the latest information and provide that to the Member. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Oral questions. The honourable Member for the Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Mr. Speaker, I have questions for the Minister of Justice. The question I have is in regards to the wilderness camp that he initiated through his department in terms of initiating a pilot project in the Sahtu region in the community of Fort Good Hope. That was the community that had this program. I wanted to ask the Minister of Justice in terms of his initial insight in terms of

an evaluation as to how this camp is doing in terms of what other camps may have been operating in the Northwest Territories. This is a very unique camp. I think the Minister of Justice needs to be commended on his initiative to pull this camp through and do something for the people in the North. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The honourable Minister of Justice, Mr. Bell.