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Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you for that. Could I get an explanation, then, as to why there’s an increase of about $300,000-and-some-odd between last year and this year?

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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Paul Devitt

The changes in the contribution amounts between the two academic years include the $300,000 for the TEP program and $120,000 for the Aboriginal Language and Cultural Instructor Program. There are changes associated with collective agreements and utilities, leases. I think those are the main changes that explain the differences between years. Thank you.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Devitt.

We’re on page 8-27. Activity Summary, Advanced Education and Careers, Operations Expenditure Summary: $42.941 million.

Department of Education, Culture and

Employment, Activity Summary, Advanced Education and Careers, Operations Expenditure Summary: $42.941 million, approved.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Page 8-28, Activity Summary, Advanced Education and Careers, Program Delivery Details: $42.941 million.

Department of Education, Culture and

Employment, Activity Summary, Advanced Education and Careers, Program Delivery Details: $42.941 million, approved.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Page 8-29, Activity Summary, Advanced Education and Careers, Grants and Contributions, Contributions: Total Contributions $33.265 million; Total Grants and Contributions $33.265 million. Mr. Hawkins.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I see that college contributions are here for $30 million, and I was just wondering about the correlation of apprenticeships, trades and occupations. Do those dollars not work together? Or are they kept exclusive?

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Minister Lafferty.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

If I can get Mr. Devitt to answer that college contribution — I guess the difference from $29 million to $30 million.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Mr. Devitt.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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Paul Devitt

Mr. Chair, in my previous answer I forgot to mention the base reduction of about $470,000 mentioned in the opening comments. Thank you.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I appreciate we are answering everyone else’s question. My question is: we have a college contribution of $30 million, but we have apprenticeship, trades and occupation money that’s almost $3 million, and I’m wondering: do they not work together? Why are they separate line items? I would think that they’d be related together.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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Daniels

The college portion is the money that we give to the college for its overall administration and program delivery. The apprenticeship, trades and occupation portion, part of that would represent some of the fees that we pay to Alberta, for example, when apprentices go down there to attend technical training.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you,

Mr. Daniels. Mr. Hawkins.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

No, that’s fine. I appreciate that. Thanks.

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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you,

Mr.

Hawkins. We’re on page 8-29, Activity

Summary. Mr. Ramsay.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just had a question in regard to the loss of the wage subsidy program dollars, the $1.3 million. I’m just wondering if the department had given any thought to taking that money and directing it into certain sectors of the economy to get our biggest bang for our dollar. Was that ever considered before it was just cut, Mr. Chairman?

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Mr. Daniels.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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Daniels

We have a number of investments that we have made in a number of different sectors, for example, in the mining area, where we’ve been a partner under the ASEP umbrella, as well as in the oil and gas sector, where we’ve been a partner with the aboriginal teachers.

With the apprenticeship training subsidies, no, we hadn’t really targeted that for any particular sector. Those funds have been used to help youth, apprentices and other people seeking training on the job in a variety of different occupations. Some of them might be related to the service industry, for example, or other employers out there.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Well, I don’t agree with the loss of the wage subsidy dollars, the $1.3 million. I think, as a government, we have an obligation to try to get people the training and skills that they need to succeed in their lives. That’s a big chunk of funding that I believe should have…. We should have done

a better job at trying to earmark that, especially in the area of hospitality, the service industry. People are having a heck of a job staffing restaurants, hotels and things like that in the tourism side of things.

So I think we could have done better in trying to earmark these dollars for where they could make some difference, and I don’t see us doing that.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

We do have other federal funding as well, the Market Development Agreement, that we work closely with. We do capture that and access that funding as much as we can. So it does subsidize in these areas. That’s one of the areas that we looked at as well. Mahsi.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister Lafferty. We’re on page 8-29. Mr. Ramsay.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I won’t keep this going much longer. But whether we have that Market — the federal program the Minister spoke of — I know we’ve got the apprenticeship programs, and we’ve got some money.

I guess for me, the bottom line is the government is not going to have $1.3 million to put toward what I believe is an essential government service, and that’s trying to get people the training and the skills necessary to make some advancements in their lives. So again, I’m just sad to see that that money’s gone, no matter what it was going to go towards. It would have helped.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

When we were doing our target, it wasn’t an easy decision. This was one of the areas that we looked at, because we certainly didn’t want to go after the school programs. That was our last resort. So it was a difficult decision, but we had to meet our targets. So that was one of the areas that we went after. Mahsi.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister Lafferty. We’re on page 8-29, Activities Summary, Advanced Education and Careers, Grants and Contributions, Contributions. Total Contributions: $33.265 million; Total Grants and Contributions: $33.265 million.

Department of Education, Culture and

Employment, Activity Summary, Advanced Education and Careers, Grants and Contributions: $33.265 million, approved.

Committee Motion 34-16(2) To Reinstate $110,000 For The Coordinator Assessment And Evaluation Position, Department Of Education, Culture And Employment, Under The Education And Culture Activity (Committee Motion Carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Moving on to page 8-30. Information item, Advanced Education and Careers, Active Positions. Mr. Hawkins.