Mr. Speaker, again, I do find it hard to believe that we don’t know and we can’t guess. Maybe now that we’re looking at income testing, I think there are other ways we can model this. We can find out -- and I agree with the Minister -- if low-income earners and low-income families are the area that we need to address as a government, we should be doing that. We should find out how many people there are in that segment and find out what it costs. That’s what we’re asking for here.
While I’m talking about cost, I want to ask the Minister what work is the Department of Health and Social Services doing on chasing down the 3,000 to 4,000 renegade health care cards that are out there costing us money? Nothing, Mr. Speaker. That’s the answer to that one.