Thank you, Ms. Lee. Anything further, Ms. Bisaro?
Debates of Feb. 16th, 2009
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Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Can the Minister give a brief explanation as to details of other expenses on page 8-27, contract services 2008-2009 revised estimates, $8.2 million and in 2009-2010 main estimates $10.3 million? Why the increase?
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That speaks to the contract we have with Blue Cross, which is the insurance program contractor for supplementary health. Thank you.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
This increase, is it because of the number of members on Blue Cross or is it because Blue Cross is changing their style of this service? I guess I’m trying to get an understanding as to why they’re charging us more than it used to be.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Mr. Chairman, we know from the actuals under ‘08-09 that the program Supplementary Health Program went beyond what was budgeted last year. This year’s budget is projecting that it will be more than what we spent last year just by not changes in programs, but just by demand. Thank you.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
Mr. Chair, I’ll have some more questions later on. When the Minister says it has more demands, it means there are more people in the Northwest Territories accessing it or it’s becoming available to more residents now who deem themselves to be residents of the Northwest Territories? I guess that’s what I’m looking for. I’m not quite certain what the Minister is saying. I wouldn’t mind just another explanation and I might get it then.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
In general, costs of everything to do with supplementary health does go up. It’s not really the numbers. The number of residents that are qualifying under these programs are relatively stable. The cost of prescription drugs are through the roof; they would go up as much as up to 30 percent. It’s just the cost of programs that we provide for our residents. Thank you.
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Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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February 15th, 2009

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I wanted to ask a question with regard to medical travel. I’m given to understand that medical travel is one of the areas that the program review office is considering looking at, and I’d like to know whether or not the Minister is aware of that and what kind of an
estimated timeline do we have for a report on the medical travel expenses? Thank you.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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The Chair David Ramsay
Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. If I could, before I go to the Minister for an answer to that question, that one is on 8-28. Maybe I could get committee to agree to 8-26 and 8-27. The number is on the 8-28. Medical travel does appear on 8-27 so we’ll allow that question there. Minister Lee.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Medical Travel Assistance Program is under review as a part of the THAF funding. We received a chunk of money under medical travel under THAF along with all the other programs that we are funding under THAF money, and part of the stipulation of THAF funding is that we do a review. There is a review underway and it’s across the jurisdictions that THAF gets money for. I mean, it’s combining Nunavut, Yukon and the NWT. We are almost done with that and I would be happy to come to the Standing Committee on Social Programs to make a presentation on that review. Thank you.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake
Two things, I guess. A presentation isn’t necessarily required. If the Minister wants to just provide us with the information from the review, that would be great. I’d like to know whether or not this review encompasses the whole area of medical travel for GNWT or for NWT and the department, or is it, as she suggested, just reviewing the part of medical travel that’s funded by the THAF funding? Thank you.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
It includes the entire program. We will undertake to provide the Members with the information we have and then any further information, we will be happy to go from there. Thank you.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake
Just one last question: Do we have a rough idea of when this review might be available? Thank you.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
I haven’t seen it yet, but my information is that it’s almost concluded or is concluded, so I will be able to provide that information shortly. Thank you.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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The Chair David Ramsay
Thank you, Minister Lee. Thanks, committee. We’re on page 8-27, supplementary health programs, operations expenditure summary, $22.977 million.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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The Chair David Ramsay
Thank you. Page 8-28, supplementary health programs, grants and contributions, contributions, $12.506 million.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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The Chair David Ramsay
Thank you. That brings us to page 8-31, activity summary, community health programs, operations expenditure summary, $75.072 million. Mr. Krutko.
Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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Committee Motion 1-16(3): Strategy To Improve The Health And Social Services Programs In Small And Remote Communities Carried
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The Chair David Ramsay
Motion to report progress. The motion is in order. Not debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? Tie vote. Maybe we’ll just get a recount here. All those in favour of the motion to report progress? All those opposed? Motion is defeated.
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Thank you, committee. Page 8-31, community health programs, operations expenditure summary, $75.072 million. Agreed?