Thank you. Then with the amount of time that I have here, Mr. Chairman, would the Minister look at this amount of dollars per senior and direct his regional office to look at proposals from communities to say we want this contract for the seniors? Thank you.
Debates of Feb. 19th, 2009
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Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Yes, Mr. Chairman. Our staff are already aware of this so they’ll be accommodating to that concept.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair Glen Abernethy
Thank you, Minister McLeod. We’re on page 5-55, information item, programs and district operations, operations expenditure summary.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair Glen Abernethy
Moving along to 5-56, also an information item, programs and district operations, grants and contributions.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair Glen Abernethy
Moving along to 5-59, also an information item, local housing organizations, operations expenditure summary. Mr. Yakeleya.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
A couple questions on the local housing organizations in terms of the collections. Again, it’s been brought up by several Members that when the LHOs were in the old system, they were pretty successful at collecting rents and when they moved into the new system under the Education, Culture and Employment, the collection percentage went down quite considerably. I’m not too sure what the trend is now in terms of the collections. I say this because with the percentage of collections that go down from the local housing authority, that has an impact on their funding in terms of a surplus or a deficit and it hurts the community. I guess I’m trying to figure out something that is hurting our local housing authority in terms of the programs they are supposed to be providing for the communities. That’s a real issue for me and that’s an issue for my local housing authority in the Sahtu and they brought it up as an issue they wanted me to raise with the Minister.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Mr. Chairman, once again, the collection rate has gone back to where it was historically. We did have one bad year where it dropped down to 76 percent, but we’re back up to close to what we were collecting in 2004-05, which is close to the 90 percent mark. We’re actually at 87 percent.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
It’s good news. I don’t know what they’ve done but it seems to have been brought up. I guess historically the LHOs in my region -- and I could be wrong on this one here -- collected up to 90 percent of the collections and this still has an impact. In regard to the funding, I’ll have to wait and see, I guess, for another couple of years to see where it will go but...I’ll wait a couple more months to see the numbers but this is what I’ve been asked to say on behalf of the people in my community on this issue. They are quite concerned. The Minister has said that it’s going back up again so...I’d like to ask the Minister, overall in the Northwest Territories, are all the numbers coming up, on average? Thank you.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Mr. Chairman, most of the Members’ communities exceed 90 percent, some are close to 100 percent. We have one community that is having some challenges and we will be working with them.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
I certainly wasn’t aware of these numbers here as the Minister has indicated. These numbers that I’m going by were given to me by Housing here, so I hope that these new numbers can be shared with us.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Mr. Chairman, we’d be pleased to share the numbers that we have in
terms of collection and receivables from his riding if the Member would like. Thank you.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley Weledeh
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. A very quick question for the Minister; on the $39.544 million, is that the amount of money that’s going from the Housing Corporation to ECE?
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
February 18th, 2009

Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Mr. Chairman, we’ll have Mr. Anderson explain the details of the $39 million.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Anderson
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The $39 million is the full allocation to our local housing organizations. That’s made up of about $5.4 million in rent collected from the tenants. We have some money that we received from the GNWT to support apprentices. The rest of it is the ECE funds. Thank you.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley Weledeh
So the Education, Culture and Employment is the difference between the amount of rent that’s assessed to the client that’s collected, like the $5 million or whatever it is, and the maximum rent. The difference comes from ECE if the client’s go down there and file their income. Is that correct? Thank you.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Anderson
The contribution, as it stands right now, from the Department of Education is about $32.5 million of the cost of running that portfolio. Thank you.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair Glen Abernethy
Thank you, Mr. Anderson. We’re on page 5-59, information item, local housing organizations, operations expenditure summary.
Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.