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Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, to the Member’s question, the answer is yes. The focus and the priority this time around, we are hoping, will be on upgrades to our public housing stock for energy purposes and also for suitability purposes.

Mr. Chairman, the Member also asked if we take that into consideration. We do condition rates on our units and that is factored into the rent and any time there are conditions that fall below 60 percent, we take a certain amount of money off for every percentage that it drops below that.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

I am on page 5-60. I hope my questions…They may seem like they are alluding page 5-60. Are we on 5-60?

---Interjection

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

I just want to get clarification on what I heard. I want to ask again in terms of these units, over a number of years some of my residents have not seen improvements in their units. They are charged a high percentage of income off their cheques and they are getting quite frustrated because there are no improvements to some of their units. Doors are not shutting properly, windows are kept open on top because of the extreme amount of hot air that is going up to the second floor. The bottom floor is pretty cold. There are lots of things that I hope the Minister can do to rectify it. This has been ongoing. This is not something new. These complaints have come over a number of years from the same tenants hoping that they would get their house fixed. That’s why I am asking these questions. Thank you.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, that’s the same question. I already indicated, yes, this

time around we are going to focus on repairs as a priority. The Member has indicated a lot of concern there. We acknowledge that our housing stock is getting old. Over the last while, it’s been very difficult to do the required maintenance, so we have certainly a lot of deferred maintenance to tend to. I think the Member will be pleased, as we put our budgets together with this budget here and the federal budget, to see the investment in the different regions and different ridings including his.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you. I look forward to that, Minister. Mr. Chairman, in the proposed budget, how he is going to rectify some of these issues, the houses are old. The assessments are done on a different level to pay for these units in terms of rental units. I can point out a few in my region that they said yes, we will look at this and we will do something. That is all they did. When I look at it, nothing has been done. That is why I keep bringing it up. So the answer I am giving to the…I am letting the Minister know that his answers are old too. He is saying yes. He is saying yes. I need to see where there is going to be some significant improvements on these old spots and that is why I am bringing this up. If it wasn’t an issue in my region, I wouldn’t be sitting here passionately talking about it. It would have been done already but it keeps coming up. We keep getting calls. We have been talking about it and talking about it in our communities about these houses, what they can get done. I know there is a limit on the amount of budget, but the money we see sometimes are not going where it should be going. I understand that. I know he is under a lot of stress. The government is under a lot of pressure, but that is why I keep saying let’s do something. I am going to leave it at that, Mr. Chairman. I am hoping that we can certainly see some difference with the housing.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, I think this is my first time in front of committee as Housing Minister. I take his issues very seriously. We intend to deal with the repairs and also replacement of some units that are too old to be repaired. The difference is, Mr. Chairman, that we are intending to focus a good portion of our budget of new monies, once we get it sorted out, towards upgrade of our public housing stock. That includes repairs in his riding and replacing some of the units in his riding that cannot be repaired. I think it is going to be a breath of fresh air for all the communities across the Territories to see the amount of work that will be available and that will be done to these units.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister McLeod. We are on page 5-60, information item, local housing organizations, grants and contributions.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

We are on page 5-61, information item, lease commitments - infrastructure.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

February 18th, 2009

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

We are on page 5-62, also an information item, infrastructure investment summary.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

We are on page 5-63, information item, infrastructure acquisition plan. Mr. Menicoche.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was just looking under Fort Simpson. We have lots of major retrofits and they are probably very needed mid-life retrofits, et cetera. But in our infrastructure acquisition plan, I don’t see one new unit, so maybe if the Minister can address the reason for it. Is there an additional plan or strategy that they have in terms of adding additional units to Fort Simpson? Thank you.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Minister McLeod.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, this budget was put together prior to the federal money being announced. We are not in a position to revise it as we have not formally entered an agreement. We are still sorting out the detail. We expect to have something in place by March 2nd , and per our

financial FMB rules, we have to just present what we have dollars planned to spend. There will be a change when we bring forward the new dollars that will be spread over two years. That will be focussed on a little more than just homeownership.

Mr. Chairman, this was the reality of the day with the dollars that we had in our budget for this coming year. This will be increased, the investment, by $25 million.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister McLeod. We are on page 5-63, information item, infrastructure acquisition plan. Mr. Bromley.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just for clarity here, this does not include the carry-over dollars from the Affordable Housing Initiative, for example for Ndilo and Dettah.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister McLeod.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, no, it doesn’t. There is still $60 million earmarked for this coming year that is carried over.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Perhaps we can get that confirmed. I am wondering also on the one new unit indicated for Dettah and Ndilo, if we have a land tenure figured out for that unit. There are two questions. Thank you.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, I have to retract my comment. It says 60 units earmarked for this year.

---Laughter

It comes out to about $12 million, Mr. Chairman.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister McLeod. And to the second part of the question, the Member asked about the one unit in Dettah, if the land issues have been dealt with. Minister McLeod.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, we will ask Mr. Anderson, who has been dealing with this issue, to respond.

Motion 6-16(3): Increases To Income Thresholds Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. Anderson.