I appreciate the Minister’s confidence in the communities and so on, but you need to base that on evidence. It may be improving, but it’s improving very slowly, as evidenced by, for example, the completion of I believe it’s three community energy plans out of our 33 communities.

We are finessing our communities into a fossil fuel future and that is something we can no longer tolerate as a society. We know what the costs are. There is no excuse for that anymore. Simply putting in these building standards will plug that hole immediately and bring immediate benefits to the communities.

We know, for example, that our public housing has now got an EnerGuide for houses 80 standard, very high quality standards, and we are building those in all our communities frequently and the communities are building those units for us. So the expertise is out there. In fact, we’ve built R2000 units years ago in the communities. So there is experience, there is the capability. What we need to do is put those standards in place as a condition when we transfer these dollars and start helping them enjoy the immediate benefits of that. Thank you.