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Question 182-16(4): Income Support Program Supports For Persons With Disabilities
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 182-16(4): Income Support Program Supports For Persons With Disabilities
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Yes, definitely, I’m willing to work with the

NWT Housing Minister and also the Minister responsible for Persons with Disabilities, if that needs to be the case. With our programming, we do provide subsidies to people with disabilities above and beyond the regular programming that we offer to NWT residents. So we continue to make improvements in those areas and continue to provide subsidies. Mahsi.

Question 182-16(4): Income Support Program Supports For Persons With Disabilities
Oral Questions

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, certainly the government does provide support to persons with disabilities; however, somewhere there appears to be a disconnect between the local housing authority and the Income Support Program, because the local housing authority was going to evict this person with disabilities. It wasn’t until the department stepped in and made the arrangements so that person can stay in their unit. However, there is a family right now with children who are not in a public unit, because of some of the housing policies, that this family here is living in a warehouse, have no running water, especially with H1N1 out there, that this is a serious problem.

I ask the Minister again, in terms of strengthening the communication between Housing and the department of income support in terms of these types of situations that we not see any more in our communities. Can the Minister commit to me in terms of providing to me and the people of Deline a strong communication process in terms of not seeing this happen again?

Question 182-16(4): Income Support Program Supports For Persons With Disabilities
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, certainly we do what we can to prevent these things from happening. Surely, if we need to improve in our communication dialogue, we’re more than willing to do that between the departments. So those are the areas of improvement that we can certainly discuss at the departmental level. Mahsi.

Question 182-16(4): Income Support Program Supports For Persons With Disabilities
Oral Questions

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, can the Minister commit to me also to work with the Department of Health and Social Services with people with disabilities in terms of them clearly understanding their responsibility when they have a housing unit, that there is support there for people with disabilities in terms of having their living conditions in the communities?

Question 182-16(4): Income Support Program Supports For Persons With Disabilities
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, most definitely. The Minister of Health and Social Services is also the Minister of Persons with Disabilities and she’s also taking all kinds of notes sitting beside me, so, definitely, we’ll continue to work in those areas. Mahsi.

Question 182-16(4): Income Support Program Supports For Persons With Disabilities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Your final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Question 182-16(4): Income Support Program Supports For Persons With Disabilities
Oral Questions

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, I would ask the Minister if he would work closely with the Minister of the NWT Housing Corporation in terms of this issue, in terms of the issue with this family here with small children that are living in the

warehouses or somewhere else in Deline, that this family here gets the shelter that they need to have.

Question 182-16(4): Income Support Program Supports For Persons With Disabilities
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

First of all we need to find out what’s really happening, why they are in the situation they are and how we can assist them. We do have programs that can certainly assist them and, yes, I’m more than willing to work with both departments, the NWT Housing Corporation and the Minister of Health and also Persons with Disabilities. If we need to improve in those areas, I am more than willing to look at it. Mahsi.

Question 182-16(4): Income Support Program Supports For Persons With Disabilities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Question 183-16(4): Land Tax Discrepancies
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs on the issue that I raised in the spring session. It was about land taxes, the local band, the municipality as well as federal lands. There’s been an issue and it still hasn’t been resolved. I’d like to ask the Minister, has the department taken the lead in this process lately and what is the current status? Thank you.

Question 183-16(4): Land Tax Discrepancies
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The honourable Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Robert McLeod.

Question 183-16(4): Land Tax Discrepancies
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There were some concerns raised by the Member and I think we also heard that concern when we did our tour. I can assure the Member that we are following up on it. I’ll get the progress and the status of it and then I’ll relay that on to the Member. Thank you.

Question 183-16(4): Land Tax Discrepancies
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

I just want to reiterate that it’s still a priority of the residents of Fort Simpson. There’s a new mayor and council and they would like to press that issue forward. I think part of the strategy of what we heard in Fort Simpson, Mr. Speaker, was there’s got to be federal involvement. Has his department contacted any federal departments with regard to this issue? Thank you.

Question 183-16(4): Land Tax Discrepancies
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, I’d have to follow up on that and see if there was some contact made. I’m assuming there was, because I know it was an issue and this was quite a while ago that the issue was raised. So I’ll commit to the Member that I will follow up on that and get the information to him and the new council in Fort Simpson as quickly as possible. Thank you.

Question 183-16(4): Land Tax Discrepancies
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Question 184-16(4): Income Support Services In Small Communities
Oral Questions

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment and it’s in regards to the lack of income support services in communities, especially communities such as Tsiigehtchic where you don’t have an income support worker in the community and you have to depend on people to come in from either Fort McPherson or Inuvik. They usually come in once a month and in most cases it’s at the end of the month, and it’s causing some problems not only for the local housing authority but for the residents of Tsiigehtchic. What we’re finding is they’re one month behind and they run into arrears. The Housing Corporation isn’t being paid on time. More importantly, if you’re not in the community for that one-day visit, you miss out, so you basically have to wait until the next month to be provided with that service of income support.

The other issue is there’s no consistency with regards to the people who come into the community. Every time an income support worker comes to the community it’s a different person, so you have to explain yourself all over again on exactly how many people who live with you, how much money you make, how many kids you have and how many cats you feed. I think it’s that type of information that people are getting tired of. So I’d just like to ask the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, what is this government doing to ensure that communities have people based in their communities providing these type of services rather than having to depend on outsiders to come in and provide a service for them? Perhaps through a service agreement with the band operations or privatize it so somebody locally can provide that service, rather than having this system which basically is having an effect on the service in the communities. Thank you.

Question 184-16(4): Income Support Services In Small Communities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 184-16(4): Income Support Services In Small Communities
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

: Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. To deal with the clientele of income support service, we do have client service officers in the communities; maybe not all communities, but those communities without client service officers we do have on-duty individuals that travel from the region. As the Member indicated, there are client service officers that travel to the communities and those individuals should be familiar with the files. There might be a case where...because usually it’s a regular client, clientele, and those are the services that we provide to the communities. Every time we do an assessment in the income support service area, there’s always improvement in the working relations with the communities, and we’ll continue

to do that. But certainly we have client service officers that are responsible for all the clientele that we have. Mahsi.

Question 184-16(4): Income Support Services In Small Communities
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, that’s why I opened up with the lack of income support services, because there is no service. How can you have service when you have somebody come to a community for four hours a month? That’s not service. I think it’s important that this government puts the money into providing that service. There was over a million dollars given to the Department of Education when they transferred that responsibility from the Housing Corporation, and the whole idea was because we have local housing authority officers in the community. We won’t allow them to do the job of accessing people. Why couldn’t you work with the local housing authority and give them that responsibility to provide the housing component of income support to do the assessment at the local community level and do a pilot project in communities that don’t have income support workers, such as the community of Tsiigehtchic?

Question 184-16(4): Income Support Services In Small Communities
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

: Mr. Speaker, we do provide services to the communities. If we have an income support worker, client service officer in a community, they provide the service. If they’re not there, that means we don’t provide services. So we do provide services in all communities, Mr. Speaker. Client services officers are established in the communities. If they’re not established in the community, they travel to the communities. There is a regular scheduled visit by income security officers, client service officers. So certainly those are the areas that we continue to improve on.

There’s also a review on the way, Mr. Speaker, that we will get some response by the end of this month or early next month, and that goes to show how our program is doing overall. So definitely we’ll be looking forward to that and we’ll be discussing further on that. Mahsi.

Question 184-16(4): Income Support Services In Small Communities
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, this time I’ll be pleading with the Minister, can he seriously consider doing pilot projects in communities to improve the services to the residents of those communities who are only receiving four hours a month of services, and offer those dollars, instead of having people fly in and fly out, show up, say hello, good bye, fill out a piece of paper and leave, have those dollars stay in the community, provide an opportunity for people by way of employment, but, more importantly, have the service delivered by the community by way of community empowerment? Thank you.

Question 184-16(4): Income Support Services In Small Communities
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, I think that is one of our goals, whether it be a pilot project or we’ve increased some client service officers in the small communities just over the last couple of years. So we continue to improve our programs.

Based on a pilot project, most likely we can look at that and see where we can go with it. If it’s required, then it has to go through the business planning process again. But definitely those are the areas that we can certainly look at in the Member’s riding and in other ridings as well. Mahsi.

Question 184-16(4): Income Support Services In Small Communities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Your final, short supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

Question 184-16(4): Income Support Services In Small Communities
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again I’d like to ask the Minister, I know my colleague from Nunakput is very frustrated in regards to people getting evicted. Now, a lot of evictions have to do with arrears, yes, but a lot of those arrears are occurring because people are not getting the attention they should be by way of these service client providers, because the consistency with their visits or with the consistency of time they spend in the community is not there. It’s an inconsistent process. So what is this government going to do to improve the services to our communities and give us more hours or more days a month than what’s presently being provided?