Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am wondering if I could have Mr. Heide answer that.
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Heide
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The first part of your question, yes, this is revenue from a variety of licences, whether that be a psychologist or a physician or any professional fee or any professional services that we provide licensing fee for.
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Alright, and for the second part, please, is it money we indirectly pay through their contract when we cover their licensing fee through the special contracts that they have?
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Heide
For professionals outside the medical profession, we don’t have contracts per se with them, so there is no recovery there whatsoever within the contract. This is a straight revenue to us.
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
If in the contract, for example with physicians, do we pay for their licensing and professional fees? Thank you.
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Heide
Professional licensing fees we pay for, yes.
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Mr. Chairman, these fees are not only just the professional and licensing fees but vital statistics fees. Oh, I guess that is a different category. So I guess you could argue for some of the professionals we pay them under contract, but there are lots of professionals who practice in the North who are not part of our salary and we will be collecting money from them, whether they are
nurses or any other professionals that work here. In fact, I think there is up to four or five hundred nurses registered to practice in the Northwest Territories and some of them may practice for a week and some of them may practice for a year, but they would have to pay fees to practice here.
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Is the Minister able to provide a further breakdown of what professional licence fees would be, and under certain categories, explain the differences, such as doctor, nurse, et cetera? Thank you.
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Yes, I would be pleased to do that. We don’t have that information right now, but we will provide a breakdown of each profession and how much we collect from them. Thank you.
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The Chair Glen Abernethy
Thank you, Ms. Lee. Thank you, committee. We are on page 8-9, revenue summary, information item. Mr. Hawkins.
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just feel like I wanted to ask some questions on…I don’t recall anyone highlighting this area, so first my apologies if it is a repeat. If it is, just let me know and I will look for it myself. I don’t remember any issue or hearing any Member raise issues with the Patient Wait Times Guarantee Trust. If they have, I will accept that as an answer. If they haven’t, can I get an assessment as to what that will deliver sort of on the ground patient delivery sort of medical delivery through either hospital or whatever mechanism?
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
This was brought up yesterday but I am pleased to tell the Member again that this is three-year funding from the federal government and the funding for each year is approved on a one-time basis and each year the funding sunsets and then renews again. This is the third year of programming that started in 2007-08. We are spending a total of $4.6 million under this project: $940,000 first year, $1.793 last year and this year we expect to spend $1.893, almost $1.9 million. We will be spending $1.068 million for CHNs, our community health nurses in our communities. We will be spending $600,000 for nurse practitioners and $225,000 this year on DI/PACS and IEHR which is the electronic equipment programming that I mentioned in my opening statement. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Bob Bromley
Thank you, Minister Lee. You also did provide that in response to questions yesterday. Is there anything further? Thank you, committee. We are on page 8-9, revenue summary, information item.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Bob Bromley
Thank you. We are on page 8-10, active position summary, information item. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chair, I would like to ask the Minister, do you give a breakdown in regards to any affirmative action statistics from the status of these employees and what their status is by way of living up to our Affirmative Action Policy and, more importantly, that we do have people that are being trained as nurses, social workers and whatnot? I would like to know if you have statistics on exactly what percentage of these individuals are P1s, P2s, P3s. I would like to ask the Minister if she can provide that information. Thank you.
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
I have information for the headquarters. We have 130 employees in the headquarters. Twenty-three, which is 17.7 percent, are indigenous aboriginal; 16.2 percent, which is 21 out of 130, are indigenous non-aboriginal, and 66 percent, which is 86 out of 130, are non-aboriginal. I do not have information on the breakdown for the staffing at the authorities’ level. I would have to make a commitment to get back to the Member on that. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Does the Minister also have a breakdown by way of gender balance in regards to the number of women in management in regards to the management positions in that layout in regards to the breakdown by gender and also by management positions?
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
We do. We have 10 out of 130 who are senior management. We have 10 percent who are indigenous aboriginal and 40 percent female. Out of the 40 percent female, one of them is in a non-traditional occupation. We have one who is a self-declared disabled person. Thank you.