This is page numbers 5227 - 5262 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was care.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

My understanding is that the long-term care facility is an NWT Housing Corporation asset. I think the Member might be referring to the health centre which we have a lease arrangement with. That’s separate from this project. Any future arrangements that might come to play would be something that would be done by DPW.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Under the Tlicho Health Authority, under the Tlicho Government, this facility, will it be a part of an asset of the Tlicho Government through the self-government arrangement with them with respect to developing assets in the Tlicho region?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

No, this will be a GNWT asset.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Okay, just clarification on the existing facility. What happens to the existing facility in the Tlicho community in regard to the Lee Erasmus Facility?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

My understanding is that building will come down and the new building will be built on that site to replace it. That existing building has flooring problems or roofing problems and where using the same site.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Under the new regulation it stipulates that you have to have, to operate under a new model that you’re using, you have to have 18 beds and it has to be adjacent to a Level B or C health centre. Will the health centre be in the new facility?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

The B-C health centre has to be in the community so that we have access to physicians.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

So who owns the Level B or Level C health facility?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

I need to get more detail. I don’t want to get the facts wrong. I believe some of it is leased. Government is leasing from Tlicho the B-C health centre, but not the long-term care centre that is there right now. I will confirm that. I just want

to make sure that I have my information correct. That’s my understanding.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Unless someone else has information that can answer that question, either Public Works or whatnot. I believe it is important that if we do lease facilities and we are building new facilities, is the objective of the government to own its facilities outright and get out of these leases and own our own health centres in our communities?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

I thought I answered the question on the long-term care facility. It’s a GNWT facility. We’re going to build it. Health and Social Services will own it. It will be a GNWT asset. We’ll provide O and M for it. Tlicho Community Services Agency doesn’t have anything to do with it.

The reason I wanted to follow up is that I know we have some lease arrangement on the health centre for a part of it. I don’t know if it’s the office or what, because we’ve done some renovations there. They’re not related. That’s not related to this project. This is a GNWT facility.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Maybe I’ll allow the Minister to get that information, but I think it’s sort of irregular to have ownership of a facility on one hand and then telling the communities that you can’t formulate these partnerships or leases for other facilities such as long-term care facilities in other communities. Yet you’re allowing it to happen here with the lease of a health centre in Behchoko. I think it’s something that has to be taken into consideration in light of what precedent is being used in this case.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. We will await further information on who owns the current health centre in Behchoko. That will be provided by the Minister, unless there is somebody else here who can comment on that. Thank you very much. Committee, I think that I don’t see any more questions on page 6-9. Page 6-9, Health and Social Services, activity summary, community health programs, infrastructure investment summary, total infrastructure investment summary, $800,000. Is committee agreed?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, committee. Return to the deferred summary on page 6-2, Department of Health and Social Services, department summary, infrastructure investment summary, total infrastructure investment summary, $16.291 million.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, committee. Does committee agree that this concludes Department of Health and Social Services infrastructure 2011-2012 Capital Estimates?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, committee. I’d like to thank the Minister and her witness, Ms. Meade, and ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to please escort the witness from the Chamber.

Does committee agree that we will next do the Department of ITI?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, committee. I’ll ask the Minister if he wishes to bring in witnesses.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

October 24th, 2010

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

I do, Mr. Chairman.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. I’ll ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to please escort the witnesses into the Chamber.

Committee, I’m going to call a three-minute recess.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, committee. I’d like to call Committee of the Whole back to order and ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to please escort the witnesses into the Chamber.

Could I ask the Minister to please introduce his witnesses?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On my left I have Peter Vician, deputy minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment; on my right I have Doug Doan, assistant deputy minister. Thank you.