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Question 258-16(5): Assisted Living Accommodations For Adult Disabled Children
Oral Questions

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

We are a territorial government, a territorial Assembly. We do territorial planning and we are reviewing the capital budget for the Department of Health this afternoon. Mr. Speaker, it’s all before us. For any additional spaces, we put them in as the funding becomes available. We have done a lot of work in building through planning studies and prototype designs, so that we can move these projects on the books as quickly as possible.

With respect to Yellowknife, there are ways to support these families that are not based out of a facility. Specific to the Member’s constituent, her situation is being addressed separately, not separately but within the system, as expeditiously as possible. Thank you.

Question 258-16(5): Assisted Living Accommodations For Adult Disabled Children
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Question 259-16(5): Legislation To Address Chiropractic And Massage Therapy Professions
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Health and Social Services. At the start of the term I raised the issue of the lack of legislation regulations for massage therapy and still we have seen nothing to date, that I’m aware of. The reason I raise that is because recently someone had brought to my attention that there is no legislation or regulations set up for chiropractors in the services in the Northwest Territories. With some looking in the issue, I found that we do not have anything, although it’s considered a normal type of legislation throughout Canada.

Mr. Speaker, I made note of the lack of a massage therapy act, because I’d like to suggest to the Minister of Health and Social Services, due to the fact that we don’t have either, is there a possibility of looking at this and addressing this particular issue in a combined effect going forward to ensure that we have the protection of our public citizens in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

Question 259-16(5): Legislation To Address Chiropractic And Massage Therapy Professions
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, Ms. Lee.

Question 259-16(5): Legislation To Address Chiropractic And Massage Therapy Professions
Oral Questions

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Legislation for the professions that the Member mentions are in the line-up. The legislation for various health care professions have been lacking for a number of years, so we have had to update the Medical Professions Act, the Pharmacists Act, we’re just going through the Social Worker Profession Act. There are a number of professions that are more numerous in numbers that we have had to update, and the ones that the Member is talking about are in the pipe, so to speak, in the

legislative writing line-up. There is a long list of legislation that needs to be updated, but we’re hoping to do it as an umbrella legislation. Thank you.

Question 259-16(5): Legislation To Address Chiropractic And Massage Therapy Professions
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, each profession can speak about the importance of their legislative requirements and regulations on how important they may or may not be over, certainly, other ones, but I can assure you that there is a concern about health and safety. If one can only imagine that if they’re laying on a chiropractor’s table and someone’s twisting their neck, what type of rules, education and authority have they played to ensure that they’re safe at that particular time.

Mr. Speaker, the point I’m getting at is there’s a health and safety issue on both issues, massage as well as chiropractic, that needs to be addressed for employers, workers and, quite clearly, the public. Can the Minister expect anything of that regard to come forward in the life of this particular Assembly, even in a draft form, so we can show the people that we are putting their public safety first? Thank you.

Question 259-16(5): Legislation To Address Chiropractic And Massage Therapy Professions
Oral Questions

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

This is a time and capacity issue and I think that it’s important to let the people know that those professions that the Member mentions do have professional bodies that they have to belong to and adhere their rules to. I mean, there’s a difference between a registered therapist and other massage therapists, for example.

Mr. Speaker, I don’t believe that we can have this legislation completed within the life of this Assembly, but the Member knows, having been here for more than one Assembly, that there is a list of legislation that moves its way up, and this is added onto that list. Thank you.

Question 259-16(5): Legislation To Address Chiropractic And Massage Therapy Professions
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, although I enjoy question period to be disagreeable, which is my right, the reality is I think the Minister is incorrect on this particular occasion, because massage therapists, some of them do belong to national organizations, and I will say that’s correct, but they don’t have to be -- and certainly if you’re in the chiropractic industry you’re not obligated, to my knowledge -- associated with any public body or national body. If you said that they were self-regulating, there are only a couple of them, so, I mean, that’s really challenging.

Mr. Speaker, in light of that, what can the Minister do to ensure that public safety is taken into consideration in light of the fact that we don’t have anyone overseeing these two specific areas that I wonder if we can use mirrored legislation from other jurisdictions. Thank you.

Question 259-16(5): Legislation To Address Chiropractic And Massage Therapy Professions
Oral Questions

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, all that work will have to be done when legislation is drafted, and in most circumstances in drafting legislation that governs professions, whether it be… I mean, we’ve

had recent examples of social workers, but I remember NWT doing one for the architects and engineers. It’s a normal practice to look at what other jurisdictions are doing and to update the legislation and bring any new precedents that we should be considering.

So, in drafting new legislation, that will be done. Mr. Speaker, that would be a normal practice. Thank you.

Question 259-16(5): Legislation To Address Chiropractic And Massage Therapy Professions
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Question 259-16(5): Legislation To Address Chiropractic And Massage Therapy Professions
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The point I am trying to get at, and I am sure the Minister understands this, is the fact that public safety is at risk out there. There is a leap of faith people are taking when they go to these places, that they are insured at one level or not that they are protected as well as they are regulated. What I am asking the Minister is: Is there perhaps, maybe a discussion paper that could come forward that we could work on and develop to see what type of priority fits with the ambition of this government and this term as well as the ambition of the next government going forward? Asking for a discussion paper doesn’t seem to be too difficult for the department to ask where does it want to be going forward and is it meeting the challenges and certainly the needs of the people of the Northwest Territories. That is what I am asking the Minister, knowing quite well the legislation doesn’t appear out of the air but a fair bit of work has to get done. Thank you.

Question 259-16(5): Legislation To Address Chiropractic And Massage Therapy Professions
Oral Questions

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, what I would like to do is just communicate to the Member on the legislation for the department that we have in the type that we are trying to get through and that is quite... I understand every safety issue and every profession, well, many professions have come forward and asked us to regulate. We have to do the major ones first and we are just working really hard to get through those.

As I stated earlier, I have the umbrella or omnibus profession legislation that we are looking at, but it will take some time. It is not something that we could do in the next little while within this Assembly. Thank you.

Question 259-16(5): Legislation To Address Chiropractic And Massage Therapy Professions
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Time for question period has expired. Item 8, written questions. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Written Question 16-16(5): Cost Of Devolution Negotiations
Written Questions

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

My questions are for the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations.

1. What is the total cost of negotiations to reach

the draft agreement-in-principle for devolution of lands and resources?

2. What is the cost for the work of the chief

negotiator?

3. What is the cost of third-party involvement in

negotiations, with a breakdown of the amounts for each party’s role?

Thank you.

Written Question 16-16(5): Cost Of Devolution Negotiations
Written Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents.

Tabled Document 89-16(5): 2010-2011 Election Year Guidelines For Members
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Pursuant to Section 42(2) of the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, I wish to table the 2010-2011 Election Year Guidelines for Members.

Item 15, notices of motion. Item 16, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 17, motions. Item 18, first reading of bills. Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Tabled Document 4-16(5), Executive Summary of the Report of the Joint Review Panel for the Mackenzie Gas Project; Tabled Document 30-16(5), 2010 Review of Members’ Compensation and Benefits; Tabled Document 38-16(5), Supplementary Health Benefits – What We Heard; Tabled Document 62-16(5), Northwest Territories Water Stewardship Strategy; Tabled Document 66-16(5), NWT Capital Estimates 2011-2012; Tabled Document 75-16(5), Response to the Joint Review Panel for the Mackenzie Gas Project on the Federal and Territorial Governments’ Interim Response to “Foundation for a Sustainable Northern Future;” Bill 4, An Act to Amend the Social Assistance Act; Bill 8, Social Work Profession Act; and Bill 9, An Act to Amend the Tourism Act, with Mr. Krutko in the chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

October 24th, 2010

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

I call Committee of the Whole to order. We have several items: tabled documents 4, 30, 38, 62, 66, 75 and Bills 4, 8 and 9. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Beaulieu.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Committee wishes to consider Tabled Document

66-16(5), NWT Capital Estimates 2011-2012, and wishes to consider the Department of Health and Social Services and, time permitting, the Department of ITI.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Does committee agree?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

With that, we will take a short break and begin with the Department of Health.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

I’d like to call Committee of the Whole back to order. Prior to the debate we agreed that we would begin with the Department of Health and Social Services. At this time I would to ask the Minister if she’ll be bringing in any witnesses.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Yes, I will, Mr. Chairman.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Does committee agree that the Minister brings in witnesses?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.