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Question 41-17(1): Shelter Policy Review And Assessment Of Public Housing Rental Rates
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, I didn’t focus on the one negative; I’m just not sure how it would best apply to residents in the NWT. Obviously we know the challenges that Nunavut Housing is facing with the debt that they have. Ours is nowhere near that. It’s not even close. I’m just trying to focus on what I think would work best for the people we serve on this side of the North.

I can assure the Member that one of the things we’ve heard – and I think all of the MLA candidates heard as they were going through the campaign – was: “I don’t want to work because my rent is going to go up.” It is one of the most important reasons I think we undertook this Shelter Policy review, is to see if we can find ways to assist those people that are trying to work.

I am running out of liberty to say too much right now on the work we’ve done. I need to meet with committee, go through the recommendations and

options with committee, and then we can roll it out to the public. I am positive that this will be well received by both Members and people across the Northwest Territories because this answers a lot of concerns that they have had in the last number of years. We are looking forward to rolling it out.

Question 41-17(1): Shelter Policy Review And Assessment Of Public Housing Rental Rates
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. Nadli.

Question 42-17(1): Interim Dehcho Land Use Plan
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today I made a statement on the Dehcho Land Use Plan. My question is directed to the Premier. What is the Government of the Northwest Territories prepared to do to help move the Dehcho Land Use Plan forward so that it could be completed?

Question 42-17(1): Interim Dehcho Land Use Plan
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. The honourable Premier, Minister McLeod.

Question 42-17(1): Interim Dehcho Land Use Plan
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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We think land use planning is a good thing, and it helps with planning for development in the Northwest Territories and also to protect areas of environmental importance.

We as a government have been working since the 16th Legislative Assembly to develop a land use

framework for our government. We are continuing to work on that. I think the work that the Dehcho has been doing on the land use plan has been very good. I think the past chair will be very difficult to replace. I think that we are getting very close. As a government, we want to work with the Dehcho First Nation and the federal government to develop a real worthwhile and a forward looking land use plan that we can all work together from. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 42-17(1): Interim Dehcho Land Use Plan
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

I just want to ask the Premier: Is there any follow-up on what it is we can do in terms of helping out the process? How is this government planning to ensure that the success of the interim Dehcho Land Use Plan is completed? Mahsi.

Question 42-17(1): Interim Dehcho Land Use Plan
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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

I think there are a lot of ways that we can work together. I think that with the advent of devolution and one of the things that the Government of the Northwest Territories wants to ensure is that lands that have not been selected by the Dehcho that there is some potential economic development that can be undertaken. I think that the areas that are of importance to the Dehcho First Nation, we want to work with them and the Government of Canada to make sure that they are clearly identified. We also want to make sure that there are lands available for land selection by the communities and the Dehcho when it comes down to it, because there are lands being set aside for protected areas. There are still lands that have to be identified by communities. We will work consistent with the Dehcho Land Use Plan in terms

of reference with all of the main players to see if we can advance this fairly quickly.

Question 42-17(1): Interim Dehcho Land Use Plan
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

My final question is to the Premier. Is there a timeline in terms of perhaps concluding the Dehcho Land Use Plan? I realize there have been a lot of discussions and pull towards concluding the Devolution Agreement. Will the Premier assure other First Nations, including the Dehcho First Nation, that their agreements would take precedence before the Devolution Agreement? Mahsi.

Question 42-17(1): Interim Dehcho Land Use Plan
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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

As a government, we are reaching out to all Aboriginal governments to establish good working relationships, and I think this is the kind of area that we think we can use to advance our working relationships with the Dehcho First Nation to work on the Dehcho Land Use Plan. I guess ideally we would like to see something happen within a year if that’s possible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 42-17(1): Interim Dehcho Land Use Plan
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Bisaro.

Question 43-17(1): Environmental Impacts Of Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my statement I talked about the effects of fracking. The consequences of fracking as a development process are becoming more and more evident within Canada and throughout North America. We are starting to become more and more aware of some of the consequences.

My questions are addressed to the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment. I would like to ask the Minister what the GNWT is doing to educate itself, its residents and other orders of NWT governments about the effects of fracking. I have to say again that we need the facts on fracks. I would like to know whether or not we are engaging in any research. What are we doing to find out about fracking and the effects it will have on us? Thank you.

Question 43-17(1): Environmental Impacts Of Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Mr. Ramsay.

Question 43-17(1): Environmental Impacts Of Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Member for the question. Obviously this is an issue that we are paying close attention to. Fracking is a practice that has been utilized in Canada since 1990. I think the Member referenced it being banned in some provinces and territories in this country. To my knowledge, that hasn’t happened. It is currently suspended in the province of Quebec, pending environmental review, but to my knowledge it hasn’t been banned in any other province or territory in this country.

I would agree with the Member; I think we have to separate fact from fiction when it comes to fracking and its future utilization in our territory, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Question 43-17(1): Environmental Impacts Of Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

We need to separate frack from fiction, do we? Thank you to the Minister for the comment, but I would like to know what we are doing as a government. Are we engaging in any research? Are we looking into the effect that fracking will have on our northern environment because it is different from other environments? I would like to know whether there are any plans on the part of this government to do some serious research, and once that’s done, to then educate other governments and our residents about it. Thank you.

Question 43-17(1): Environmental Impacts Of Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

There’s certainly a lot of potential in the Northwest Territories, both in oil and gas development. In the Sahtu region, certainly across the river from Norman Wells there’s a lot of potential there for oil where fracking could be utilized to extract that oil.

We need to work with the regulators, the NEB. We need to work with AANDC, the federal government and ourselves to come up with a plan. Currently – I know my colleague Minister Miltenberger spoke of this the other day – there is a plan in place to coordinate efforts, to reach out to communities, and it will start in the Sahtu to let people know what fracking is, how it works and what the potential pros and cons of such activity are on the environment. Also, there are economic benefits too.

So I think the balance and weighing those things out will be something that communities across the Northwest Territories will have an opportunity at some point in the near future to have the opportunity to comment on. I can see that type of program reaching out to other communities across the Northwest Territories, but for the immediate future it’s going to start in the Sahtu in the new year. Thank you.

Question 43-17(1): Environmental Impacts Of Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. I didn’t hear much about research. I heard we’re going to look into it; we’re starting in the Sahtu. I think it’s important that we consider that it’s not just the Sahtu; it’s undoubtedly going to end up in the southwestern corner of our territory. So I would urge the Minister, with the Minister of ENR, to go well beyond just the Sahtu.

One of the things that I mentioned in my statement is that I believe it’s a responsibility of government to protect residents, and one of the things that I think we can do as a government, if we feel that there are implications for a particular development, is to act as an intervener in an environmental assessment process. So I would like to know from the Minister whether or not this government will take that role and act as an intervener in an

assessment process, should that development come to that. Thank you.

Question 43-17(1): Environmental Impacts Of Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

That’s common business practice for us to act as an intervener in environmental assessment. So, going forward, that would be the case. Certainly the more information we have on fracking, the research… I know the department is following it close as are the folks at ENR. We need to know exactly what we’re dealing with and we’re fully intent on finding out what fracking is and, again, weighing the pros against the cons, the economic benefits versus protecting the environment. I think at the end of the day we’ve got a regulatory process in place here in the Northwest Territories that’s going to allow us to do just that.

Question 43-17(1): Environmental Impacts Of Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Final, short supplementary, Ms. Bisaro.

Question 43-17(1): Environmental Impacts Of Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thanks to the Minister. I was pleased to hear the Minister earlier say that there will be an opportunity for residents to provide some input, and that’s, I think, a large concern for me and also for many constituents. What avenues will there be in sort of a specific sense for residents to direct their concerns to the government so the government will know what individual residents and/or community governments feel about the process of hydraulic fracturing? Thank you.

Question 43-17(1): Environmental Impacts Of Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Thank you. I would envision the type of outreach and educational program that’s going to be looked at for communities is going to be something people can understand. It’s going to be at a level where people can get a better understanding of what fracking is. As far as residents in the Northwest Territories wanting to provide input, that opportunity, if the meetings get to communities across the territory, people will have that opportunity to provide their input. Again, I think we need to get all the facts on the table and chart a course justly. Thank you.

Question 43-17(1): Environmental Impacts Of Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The Member for Range Lake, Mr. Dolynny.

Question 44-17(1): Extended Health Benefits And Current Information For Cancer Patients
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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have two questions today for the Minister of Health. Earlier today I indicated in my Member’s statement the need to create a better fast-track policy with extended health benefits as it pertains to newly diagnosed cancer patients. Can the Minister of Health please share with this House if there is a policy in place or a draft that deals with a better system for fast tracking cancer drug coverage?

Question 44-17(1): Extended Health Benefits And Current Information For Cancer Patients
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. The Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Beaulieu.

Question 44-17(1): Extended Health Benefits And Current Information For Cancer Patients
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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. NWT health insurance pays and approves the cost of cancer therapies provided to the clients, and the department works closely in partnership with Alberta Health Services, in particular the Cross Cancer Institute, to provide the services to residents of the NWT at this time. Thank you.

Question 44-17(1): Extended Health Benefits And Current Information For Cancer Patients
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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Obviously at a later time I’ll be talking to the Minister, probably in closed quarters, to get more information on that.

The second part of my question has to do with what we’ve heard earlier today by my esteemed colleague from the Sahtu regarding his people having increased incidents of colorectal cancer and their concerns, but all of our citizens are worried about the increase of cancer cases in the NWT. Current information is not readily available to the public. The last report from the Health and Social Services, called “Cancer in the Northwest Territories 1990-2000: A Descriptive Report” is over 10 years old and very out of date. We are informed the Department of Health and Social Services has a new report covering 2000-2010 but has yet to be released.

Can the Minister of Health indicate to the House when this document will be available so the residents know what’s going on with cancer? Thank you.