This is page numbers 5815 - 5852 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

So that’s $100,000 for three centres at the moment, is that correct?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Paul Devitt

I believe it’s three or four different centres, yes.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks for the response. So then, when we transfer school bandwidth totally way from GNWT, what kind of money are we looking at? Thank you.

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Paul Devitt

I can’t answer that specifically, but I think the intent of the project is to make it cost-

effective or neutral, but I think we’re still in the final stages, as I mentioned.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

I like the sentiment that it would be cost neutral, but where’s the revenue coming from to pay for this expense? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Paul Devitt

Again, I can’t give specifics, but I know that Public Works and Services is in the process of renegotiating the contract and this is part of the negotiations. As I said, at this point the objective is certainly to make it a cost neutral or perhaps even achieve some savings or at least increased bandwidth. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

I guess I would like to ask the Minister if he would commit to provide that information. I’d like to know what it’s costing us to do this. If there are savings, where are the savings coming from and how do we get to cost neutral and/or actually gain some money? If he could commit to that, thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Minister of Education, Mr. Lafferty.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Chair. We will provide as much information as we have. It could be detailed information. We’ll have to work with Public Works and Services in that respect as well. Yes, definitely we’ll share the information that the Member is referring to. Mahsi, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Page 10-13, directorate and administration. Ms. Bisaro.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have a couple of other questions here as well. In the figures that are on page 10-13, there’s an $80,000, approximately, increase in purchased services and then we have almost a $200,000 decrease in fees and payments. I was just wondering if I could get those changes explained, please.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Director of Finance, Mr. Devitt.

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Paul Devitt

I believe purchased services, some of the changes are to realign with actual or expected expenditures. The purchased services increase was an internal reallocation to realign the information systems budget. The fees and payments, again, was a realignment of the systems budget to match expected expenditures.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks for the explanation. It creates another question. Where do the other costs, the other $200,000 in fees and payments show up? Thank you.

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Paul Devitt

We had gone through the entire budget, particularly in systems, and realigned it to match expenditures. I’m not sure if we have changed I think other areas as well. We have to go through I think each item. We decreased, for example, computer hardware I think by $106,000, but that actually is a sunset to do with the Redirect Project and the equipment, for example. That’s the

only actual change to the budget. The other amounts are internal reallocations.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

I would like to ask the Minister for this information as well. Could we get a sheet which identifies the internal reallocation from place to place where it has been moved from and to within the department and could we get that before we’re finished consideration of this department’s budget? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Minister of Education, Mr. Lafferty.

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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Chair. We’ll definitely follow through with that and provide that information as soon as possible.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

I have one last question; I believe it belongs on this page. The Auditor General’s report on education referenced a number of things, but one of the things that I think was fairly strong in her report was that the department needed to do more in terms of data accumulation and program evaluation. I’d like to know from the Minister whether or not that recommendation from the Auditor General was taken into consideration with the development of this budget. How much is being spent on this particular area within the department? Has there been an increase in the funds apportioned to data accumulation and program evaluation from ‘10-11 to ‘11-12 budgets? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

The information I have is that the recommendations that were brought to our attention, some of those recommendations will be covered through this budget process. The others will also be covered in next year’s budget as well. What the Member is specifically highlighting is also an area that we’ll need to monitor as well. So some of the aspects of the detailed information on the recommendations will be part of this budget that’s before us. Mahsi.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. I guess my concern is that data accumulation and program evaluation has been part of every budget and what we have previously been putting into this area hasn’t been enough, according to the Auditor General, and I would agree with the Auditor General. My question really is: in the 2011-2012 budget, do we have a greater emphasis -- and by that I probably mean more money -- assigned to data accumulation and program evaluation than in this current year’s budget, the 2010-2011 budget?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Daniels.

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Daniels

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The initial emphasis that the department is working on with our respective school boards is on school improvement plans and to make sure that we’re collecting that information and monitoring how we’re progressing with the school improvement plans. So all schools are required to develop a

school improvement plan and submit them into our department from where we’ll do the evaluation and assessment. The Member has mentioned increased support in this area and that’s something we will be undertaking in future work with future business planning proposals.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Any further questions regarding page 10-13? Page 10-13, Education, Culture and Employment, activity summary, directorate and administration, operations expenditure summary, $10.219 million. Mr. Hawkins.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In reading the line under the directorate, and of course having the operations expenditure in front of us, I’m just wondering exactly when there’s a line that states the directorate does the capital planning for the department and Aurora College and other educational authorities. What type of capital planning has the Department of Education, Culture and Employment done for Aurora College in the last two years? Furthermore, what is budgeted for this particular budget year for capital planning for Aurora College?