This is page numbers 5815 - 5852 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I’m sure that information would be useful to all Members, of course. I think the Minister alluded that when he said he’d share it with the Members, he meant everyone.

Mr. Chairman, just to continue on this, I’m trying to find out what support services we provide for early childhood development programming. I’m going to pursue the area of assessment. That’s the particular area that I’d like to pursue. Assessment, when I refer to it, is things like speech language behaviour and play and motor skill development. What type of support do we provide?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Daniels.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daniels

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The early childhood framework that we work with is we work closely with the Department of Health and Social Services, who does a lot of the work in that area. The role that we provide is more on the child development area and the provision of funding for programs that support language and development in the language nest programs, for example, as well as supporting the start-up and operating costs for early childhood programs, as well as the training of early childhood care workers. Then we also conduct the monitoring and evaluation functions of licensed facilities to ensure they’re complying with the Child Day Care Act.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Early childhood development is a very important issue within the riding and certainly with myself. I just want to make sure that we’re providing the right type of support. I often hear concerns about not receiving enough funding support when it comes to being able to address issues such as speech and language as well as behaviour, which I would think falls directly on the Department of Education when you’re funding these organizations. Does the department provide that type of service? I know the deputy minister had alluded, or I should say quite directly pointed out that they provide language nest programming, which is a little bit different. I’m just wondering, specific to things like speech language and behaviour, do they support some of the early childhood development programming in that regard.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daniels

There are different programming supports through our funding arrangements that we contribute to the operators. We do make adjustments in our formula that take into account any special needs that students might have or young children might have that are part of these facilities, so that the facilities can help provide increased levels of support for students who might have special needs.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

With that said, can the department provide some examples and certainly

attach some dollar amounts that they provide in meeting those supports that they’ve highlighted?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Lafferty.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi. We’ll provide that information. We don’t have it here with us.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I look forward to that. Thank you for that commitment. On that same vein, does the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, through the early childhood development programming -- and I would like to boldly call it initiative because it’s very important that we stand behind these things -- supply or help fund resources that look at physiotherapy, speech and language pathology, things along those types of lines? Now, they’re slightly different when I referred to it earlier. I’m getting sort of into the nuts and bolts of actual accredited organizations. Sorry, accredited skills. My apologies. On top of that, what type of training services does the department provide the people who would run an early childhood development centre? What type of training and support for resources do they supply?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Daniels.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daniels

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We do have a Healthy Children Initiative Fund that’s part of our early childhood mix of programming that people can apply for to support different initiatives. I forget the exact dollar figure right off hand, but I think it’s around $2 million or in that neighbourhood that different organizations can apply for for different supports that children in different centres might require support for.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Would the department be willing or would they commit to giving me a breakdown of the examples of how they’ve spent that in the last budget year and how they anticipate spending that particular money or targeting that money in this budget year?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Lafferty.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Chairman. We can provide that information to the Members, the breakdown of what we have within our department, the expenditure that he’s referring to.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I want to thank the department for that. Just moving lastly to one particular area and hopefully I’ll have time to get into another one. On this particular area of early childhood development programming there’s at least a number of centres. Mainly I’m thinking of one in the downtown of Yellowknife and they work through one of the education boards. One of the things, of course, is the funding seems to be sort of stalled. How does the department meet those initiatives where the increased funding demand is there but it appears that the funding committed to the overall program

remains at a standstill? How are they meeting the challenges of helping them through the funding resources and the funding agreements?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Daniels.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daniels

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We have a different mix of programming. The pots of funding that support early childhood. We do try to make sure that people are aware of the different pots of funding that they can apply for. Some of the funding is formula based, so it really depends on how many children might be in a centre. That would be a factor in the amount of money, as well as the age, because different staffing ratios kick in depending on the age of the children in these different centres. Sometimes the formula might put a cap on a particular operation depending on the size of the facility.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Recognizing the clock, I’ll just wrap up the next subject quite quickly in a sort of a brief overview. Under inclusive schooling, can I request that the Minister give me a breakdown on how dollars are spent per school per community and how the expenditure is based, whether it’s on base funding then per capita, to get an understanding on the type of programming and how the dollars are attributed to that? Perhaps I’ll just leave that as my last particular question at this time.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Lafferty.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Chairman. We can clearly provide breakdowns that we provide to the schools. We don’t have that specific detailed information with us here today but we’ll provide that to the Members.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Just to remind Members to keep your sidebars down so that we can hear the questions. Next I have Ms. Bisaro.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, it was a little difficult to hear you. I have a couple of questions here. The first one has to do with the numbers on page 10-17 for education operations and development. That’s gone down considerably, from about $3.5 million to $2.6 million or so. Can I get an explanation as to why?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Daniels.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daniels

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That’s part of the shift. We’re moving the responsibility for the coordination of the Aboriginal Student Achievement Initiative from the education operations development side part of the department into our early childhood and school services part of the department.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

I guess I should use my earpiece, but I didn’t quite hear the answer. It’s to early childhood and student services area? Could I get that clarified?