Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Mr. Aumond.
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Aumond
Mr. Chairman, I guess the answer to that question is yes, provided that all the conditions for sale would take place, and they are
much the same as they are for Commissioner’s land within a boundary. We have a process. We have a pricing policy that comes into effect. The communities get consulted. In the case of Norman Wells, the block land transfer was outside the community boundaries and the community was consulted. Commissioner’s land can be leased. It can be sold as the case may be. There is a process that gets followed, whether it is a small parcel of land or it is a large parcel of land. In this case, there was no sale of land. It is being leased. This is pretty much the same process that gets followed. It was followed in this case. Thank you.
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Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake
Thanks, Mr. Aumond. I am not pointing fingers here at all. I am trying to understand the situation, please. I am not meaning to be offensive, if I am. I guess I would like to know what steps need to be followed. What process does exist that needs to be followed? If, for instance, there were to be a sale within the block land transfer for the City of Yellowknife and the City was not agreeable, would the community that “has the block land transfer” have veto power? Thank you.
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Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes
Mr. Chairman, the short answer is no, they wouldn’t have veto power. Thank you.
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Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake
Mr. Chairman, I just have one last request. Is it possible that committee could see the outline of the process that is followed when land is sold? Thank you.
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The Chair Glen Abernethy
Thank you, Minister McLeod. We are on page 6-29, Municipal and Community Affairs, activity summary, lands administration, operations expenditure summary, $3.248 million.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Glen Abernethy
We are moving along to page 6-30, Municipal and Community Affairs, information item, lands administration, active positions.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Glen Abernethy
We are moving along to page 6-32, 6-33, Municipal and Community Affairs, activity summary, sport, recreation and youth, operations expenditure summary, $5.179 million.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Glen Abernethy
We are moving along to page 6-34, Municipal and Community Affairs, activity summary, sport, recreation and youth, grants and contributions, grants, $100,000. Mr. Menicoche.
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Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The other thing I did a statement in the House about was supporting our youth drummers. I would like to ask the Minister. Is it somewhere in one of these contribution programs that a proposal may fit in there, Mr. Chairman? Thank you.
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Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes
Mr. Chairman, we are always wanting to do what we can to support the cultural activities of the youth across the Northwest Territories. In this particular one, it would either go on a youth contributions, youth corps, but I caution the Member that we support the cultural aspect of it. But when it comes to competing for prize money, then MACA is very hesitant in supporting groups that go on a competition for prize money. We have had requests for some hockey teams to contribute to them, but they are going to play for prize money. The cultural part of it, where they just go and showcase their hand games, then we would look at it on a case-by-case basis. Thank you.
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Bob Bromley Weledeh
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wondered again for the reduction of the youth corps funds and the increase in the pan-territorial sports programs, are those related to each other? Maybe I can just get some details on those. Thank you.
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Aumond
Mr. Chairman, the Pan-Territorial Sports Program has been increased because the federal contribution to that program has increased. It is something that is matched between ourselves and the feds. The youth corps reduction, although you see a reduction in youth corps, really what we have done is taken $150,000 out of the youth corps money and created the permanent Youth Ambassador Program so it is still money spent within youth. It is just being reprofiled within that envelope. Thank you.
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Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a couple of questions here. First of all, I mentioned last year that we seem to have an awful lot of youth contributions. I have suggested that the department needed to look at them and see whether or not they can be combined. I have great difficulty in looking at these and seeing how some of them are different from others. The youth centre is one, that is pretty self-explanatory, but I fail to see the difference between the youth contributions and the youth corps.
The other thing that concerns me is we also have contributions to youth corps and youth contribution
programs and regional youth sports events on page 6-41. There are huge amounts of money here to youth, which is a good thing, but I am wondering why we have it in two different places. First of all, why do we have so many different pots of money? Why do we have it in two places? Thank you.
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Aumond
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I guess the way we have this sorted out is it’s historically been that way and I suppose if we tried to lump them all together, we’d be explaining why we made the changes we made. However, having said that, there is youth money in the regional ops section of the department and there’s youth money in sport, rec and youth. Generally youth corps funding is for those territorial-wide programs and the youth contributions are for those regional or community type of activities, which is why it’s on this particular page. It’s quite small in comparison with what you’d see at the regional ops page.
I do hear what the Member is saying and we do have to work with the format that we are provided, as well, but I guess we can always try something better. Really, some of these programs are distinct and we do try to highlight them for ease of explanation. I think a lot of them are, if you look at the multi-sport games, you know what that’s for, but the difference between the youth corps is generally territorial-type programs, Take a Kid Trapping, for example, whereas the youth contributions are for a specific community or regional program that happen normally on a one-time basis while the core money is stuff that happens on a multi-year basis. Thank you.