Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. I see there’s a health services administration just above that, but I’ll go to Mr. Elkin for further clarification there.

Okay. Have we made changes, then, to the implementation of the program, or was it in anticipation and they may perhaps not be needed?

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Ms. Lee.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That money was put in in anticipation of changes and, as the Member knows, we are discussing making some changes and we will need the resources still.

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Committee, we are on page 8-17, Health and Social Services, activity summary, program delivery and support, operations expenditure summary, $34.32 million. Agreed?

Page 8-18, Health and Social Services, activity summary, program delivery support, grants and contributions, contributions, $17.619 million. Ms. Bisaro.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The professional development recruitment and retention increased significantly from main estimates to revised estimates in this current budget year and then we have estimated the same amount in 2011-2012 as the revised estimates from this current budget year. What was the reason for the huge increase from $1.6 million to $2.9 million in this current year? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Mr. Elkin.

So does that mean that it is a shuffling of the money from one pot to another and nothing has changed, the totals haven’t changed? I need an interpretation. Thank you.

Thank you Mr. Elkin. Committee, again, we are on page 8-18, Health and Social Services, activity summary, program delivery support, grants and contributions, contributions, $17.619 million. Agreed?

Thank you, Page 8-19, Health and Social Services, information item, program delivery support. Agreed?

Thank you, committee. Page 8-21, Health and Social Services, activity summary, health services programs. Mr. Abernethy.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is probably one of the largest expenditure sections in the Department of Health and Social Services at $188 million-plus. There has been a lot of talk in the last couple of years about deficits and increased debt at some of our authorities, in particular Stanton and Beaufort-Delta. Could the Minister tell me what the projected debt and deficits are for both those authorities for the 2010-2011 fiscal year, and how that affects us coming into the 2011-2012 fiscal year and the amount that is going to be transferred to them?

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. Mr Elkin.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What does that put us at for total debt for those two facilities?

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there has been an awful lot of conversation about the debt and deficits of both those institutions and there has been reference to plans and action items and things we are going to do to reduce those debts, but they keep growing. I know the department is doing a lot of things. I know Stanton and Beaufort-Delta are trying things. I know there has been some changes in the Beaufort-Delta and now it is under the control, I guess, of a public administrator, but what kind of things, what kind of large activities are we doing out of Foundation for Change or any of the other reviews, to help us get this deficit and debt under control? I know, personally, I think it is underfunded but we have what we have and we have to do what we have to do, but what is being done to control these types of things and can we see any improvements for 2011-2012 fiscal year, going into the life of the 17

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