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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Mr. Elkin.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Elkin

Thank you. In terms of being able to forecast the number of clients that are accessing blood products during the year, that’s something we find out from the authorities after the fact. Again, due to client confidentiality and transferring of that kind of data between the authorities, usually at the end of the year we find out what their expenses are. So, again, we don’t know whether or not we’re going to have this under expenses for the upcoming year.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Okay, I’m getting a bit confused here. We’re doing a budget here for the 2012-2013 area and we’re not going retroactively in time, we’re going forward in time, which means if we know forward in time we have patients that are going to be under our care and attention, could we not put

this in the main estimates and not have deviations and having to have supplemental appropriations that happen immediately after this process? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Mr. Beaulieu.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you. Much like the supplementary appropriations that go forward for firefighting, the Department of Finance would prefer to not put these types of costs in the base. So only when it’s verified that the money has been used, then we get it through a supplementary appropriation as a standard process.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

I don’t understand the direct link between firefighters and firefighting which we do not know and something that we do know. I’ll leave it at that, but I’m going to ask the department moving forward to take a look at this because, again, comparing this to firefighting, these are two different types of entities.

With that, my next question involves the contract services and the details of other expenses. We see a drop from the $5.776 million down to $3.028 million. Can we get an explanation as to that drop? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Mr. Elkin.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Elkin

Thank you. Again, that item is related to the $1.9 million in the supplementary appropriation related to Canadian Blood Services. That’s the line item that it starts on.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Okay, so we’re seeing two different charge items dealing with the same entity, again creating confusion for those that would have to look at these estimates year after year and, again, creating a lot of extra work. Even by me talking for 10 minutes on this, this is creating work. Will the department put some commitment moving forward that these types of items be looked at that would be encompassed within the main estimates?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Minister Beaulieu.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Chair. The Department of Health and Social Services is prepared to go back to the Department of Finance to see if the number can be put into the base so that this doesn’t occur in the future.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

No further questions, Madam Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Questions? Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. I’d like to follow up on my earlier questions on the telehealth infrastructure and use of the technology. I appreciated the Minister’s information that we actually do have telehealth infrastructure in all 33

communities. That was really good news. I’m wondering, first of all, what activities or programs are we currently using that equipment for.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Ms. DeLancey.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Debbie Delancey

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We don’t have the breakdown of proportion but we use that service for a number of clinical activities including speech and language pathology, psychiatry, family counselling. It’s also used for training sessions for authority staff. It’s occasionally used to arrange visits for families with patients in other centres and very occasionally for meetings.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

June 6th, 2012

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

That’s quite a list and I imagine the list could only grow as we get familiar and more proficient and the technology improves. Thank you for that information. I’m wondering, given that the equipment is in all 33 communities, are we fully using it. Are all 33 communities fully up to snuff and engaged in implementing this technology to its fullest capacity?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Mr. Beaulieu.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Chair. In the 33 communities we have 73 locations using it but we could expand the use of this technology. There is room to expand the use of this technology, for sure.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Just to probe that a little bit, that could be interpreted with different degrees here, so I’m interested in… Let’s start with the basic use for the most fundamental things on the list. Is every community capable of using it for speech pathology sorts of work and for counselling, say?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Yes, for both speech pathology and counselling.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

That tells me that the basic skills are there and engaged and I’m sure as people get more familiar, they will work towards the upper level of achievement as was the basis of my question. That’s all I have on that.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Page 8-17, Health and Social Services, activity summary, program delivery support, operations expenditure summary, $34.772 million.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Page 8-18, Health and Social Services, activity summary, program delivery support, grants and contributions, contributions, total contributions, $18.197 million.