This is page numbers 1243 - 1280 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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Question 180-17(3): Nahanni Butte Flood
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Menicoche.

Question 180-17(3): Nahanni Butte Flood
Oral Questions

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. The situation in this case with the heavy equipment was that they were all pre-owned vehicles which did not work during the flood. They were looking at all communities should have at least like a track vehicle available to help with their needs.

Aside from that, I’d like to invite the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs to come to Nahanni Butte this fall or this winter to see the community for himself. As well, we may even finally do a gymnasium opening ceremony in the community of Nahanni Butte. Thank you.

Question 180-17(3): Nahanni Butte Flood
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. I look forward to the opportunity of going into Nahanni Butte, the only community in the Northwest Territories I haven’t been to so far. We’ve had many opportunities to try to get there to open the gymnasium and I hope the gymnasium doesn’t flood before we have a chance to open it.

I will commit to the Member and I think we are working on a possible tour of the Nahendeh, and Nahanni Butte would be one of my priority stops. Thank you.

Question 180-17(3): Nahanni Butte Flood
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Moses.

Question 181-17(3): Aboriginal Student Achievement Committees
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Continuing on with the theme of education, I’ll ask the Minister of Education a question in regard to the Aboriginal Student Achievement committees that he’s been talking about for quite a while. However, before I begin on that, I’d just like to apologize, as I forgot to recognize the Honourable Glen Abernethy, Public Works and Services, who attended the opening of Inuvik’s school as well.

Moving on, one of the questions that I had was in regard to the Aboriginal Student Achievement committees that have been working very hard over the past year to develop some initiatives into increasing our Aboriginal education in the small communities. What funding is allocated, if any, for these committees to make sure that their initiatives get started up this fall, this winter, or this spring? Thank you.

Question 181-17(3): Aboriginal Student Achievement Committees
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses. The Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 181-17(3): Aboriginal Student Achievement Committees
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. First, I’d like to commend the committee of Inuvik working on this ASA, one of the priorities of this government, my department.

The funding that we do provide through ASA, Aboriginal Student Achievement Initiative, is approximately $1.8 million for ASA initiatives to fund a number of activities such as literacy coaches, the libraries, the cultural orientation for all teachers, an ASA coordinator and also an Aboriginal Student Achievement Initiative public awareness campaign. This also deals with those communities that are initiating their own committee to work with the Beaufort-Delta Department of Education as well. So it has been made clear. The Member made a statement in the House last time. I did make inquiries to the superintendent to work closely with the committee to make it a real successful project. So I’m looking forward to seeing the outcome of that. Mahsi.

Question 181-17(3): Aboriginal Student Achievement Committees
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Out of the $1.8 million to the ASA committees throughout the Northwest Territories and all the good work that’s going on within that money, how much of this money is actually being filtered into the initiatives that these committees have developed on their own, these innovative and unique initiatives that they’ve developed on their own? How much of that money is actually going into those programs so that we know that the work those committees are doing is not going unnoticed or not going unfunded or not being supported?

Question 181-17(3): Aboriginal Student Achievement Committees
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Again, this money is flowed through the Beaufort-Delta Board of Education, and the funding that flows through would consist of various activities that the committee can access, as well, through the Beaufort-Delta Board of Education. Also, working closely with my staff that deal with ASA, we are currently discussing that. At the current stage we’re establishing an ASA steering committee to deal with these matters because we want to support the local ASA committees, such as Inuvik. They are part of the school system and others that take on the responsibility on a volunteer basis. So we need to make this an effort and we are working towards that. So we establish a committee to work with them. Mahsi.

Question 181-17(3): Aboriginal Student Achievement Committees
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

A couple of weeks ago I got an e-mail from one of the committee members asking about when funding will start flowing to their committee so the initiatives that they’re looking at implementing can actually start running. Can the Minister confirm that his department, his staff, is working with the Department of Education, the councils and with the ASA committees, that all three are working together so that the funding is actually going to initiatives that these committees have been working on for over a year now?

Question 181-17(3): Aboriginal Student Achievement Committees
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

The simplest answer would be yes. If they haven’t done so, as of today they need to start working with my department, with BDAC, and also with the committee that’s been established. Not only the Beaufort-Delta but other regions as well. We need to support those individual committees on a volunteer basis doing what they can. They are committed so we need to support them. I’m a firm believer in that.

I’m also meeting with the board chairs in December. I will raise that issue, as well, that we need to start implementing. It’s a shared responsibility. We need to move forward and make it a successful project.

Question 181-17(3): Aboriginal Student Achievement Committees
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Final supplementary, Mr. Moses.

Question 181-17(3): Aboriginal Student Achievement Committees
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister provide me with some details on how many of these ASA committees have actually started implementing some of their action plans throughout the regions of the Northwest Territories, and if this side of the House will get a report on these committees and how many of them have actually implemented their action plan?

Question 181-17(3): Aboriginal Student Achievement Committees
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

I’ll definitely provide the detailed information of the committee that’s been established. To date we do have three communities that are working towards implementing the ASA. I’ll provide that detailed information to the Members.

Question 181-17(3): Aboriginal Student Achievement Committees
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

Question 182-17(3): Emergency Housing Need
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of the NWT Housing Corporation. In my statement I outlined the desperate housing situation people are facing going into winter. There are 137 names on the Yellowknife Housing Authority waiting list, 500 across the territory, and several service organizations say that the situation is so bad it’s scaring them. There have been some good changes in our approach to housing, but the facts, unfortunately, show that things are just getting worse. The statistics essentially reflect an emergency.

I’m wondering what the Minister is contemplating to deal with this situation and how are we going to get people housed as winter comes on.

Question 182-17(3): Emergency Housing Need
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Robert McLeod.

Question 182-17(3): Emergency Housing Need
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We do have vacant units across the

Northwest Territories where the public housing stock units are vacant, but those units are being worked on. We have approximately 130, I think, where there’s some major M and I work done. We’ve tried to encourage our LHOs to have this work completed as quickly as possible so we can turn them over and get tenants into them. Unfortunately, sometimes due to lack of capacity, that does become very challenging. A lot of the units are under repair, and once the repairs are completed we will move tenants back in, which should shorten up the waiting lists in each community.

Question 182-17(3): Emergency Housing Need
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

We have heard that answer before, yet here we have this situation where we have a huge waiting list that is building rapidly.

At my constituency meeting a couple of nights ago in Ndilo/Detah, I was told there are up to 10 vacant home ownership units in the community. Most are all still empty while un-housed people sit on these waiting lists, often because household income thresholds do not match reality. There are about 30 empty units in Behchoko for want of money to do repairs. We’ve been hearing about that for over a year now. Again, this is an emergency.

What steps will the Minister take now to get families into the vacant home ownership units, for example, and what steps will he take now to get damaged units repaired and back into the housing pool on an expedited schedule?

Question 182-17(3): Emergency Housing Need
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Members have heard the answer before and they will continue to hear it: As long as we have vacant units that need to be repaired every year, we will have vacant units that are being worked on. That answer will never change.

As to what we’re doing right now, I understand the Member is concerned over the vacant home ownership units. That is one that we’ve aggressively been trying to address. Sometimes we can’t get folks in there because the income doesn’t match or there are other reasons. It’s not always just the income. The ones that we’ve had in the past, we have tried to convert to public housing so we can utilize more of them.

I’ll have to follow up on the 10 that are in the Member’s constituency, because I do know we had 135 a couple of years ago and we had very aggressive plans, and we had converted a lot of these into public housing units so we could utilize them, because we’ve heard from across the Northwest Territories that we have all these vacant units. We don’t want them vacant. Some have been vacant for five years. We’ve been trying to address that.

Again, I will follow up on the 10 that the Member speaks of and find out where they’re at and how we can go about filling these vacant units, because we

don’t want to see vacant units in the Northwest Territories. That’s not our goal.

Question 182-17(3): Emergency Housing Need
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

I was told at my constituency meeting – the Minister talked about the vacant home ownership units – that people are being turned down for home ownership units because the income ceilings are unrealistic. Obviously, with up to 10 vacant units in a community as small as Ndilo/Detah, there’s something wrong with the program practicality. The Minister knows that. He just told us. Knowing that, let’s do something about it.

Will the Minister commit to review those guidelines again and consider means to place home ownership units or transfer them into the public housing stock, which I know he said he would do the latter?

Question 182-17(3): Emergency Housing Need
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

We’ve tried every which way to get as many people into these home ownership units as possible. We’ve tried having a 10 percent gap where if they were over the ceiling, then we would consider them. We’ve had some limited success with that. Some people have been turned down for other reasons.

I will commit to the Member that I will follow up on these units and see where they’re at, because I would like to see, as much as the next guy, a lot of people moved out of the public housing spectrum and into home ownership, but we have to ensure that we work very closely with them and make sure that we’re not setting a lot of them up for something that they are not capable of handling. A lot of the people are surprised, once they get into home ownership, the amount of money that they have to pay as far as bills go.

I will commit to the Member that I will work on these particular units and see how we can best do something with them very quickly.

Question 182-17(3): Emergency Housing Need
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Bromley.

Question 182-17(3): Emergency Housing Need
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Minister’s commitment there. I know the Minister realizes that housing is really the fundamental first step of getting people out of poverty. They need a basis to live and carry on their lives. This is so important.

I mentioned in my statement the new Transitional Rent Supplement Program and the current refusal to develop policy for people renting in boarding houses to access the program. With Yellowknife at less than a 1 percent vacancy rate in the residential market, will the Minister stop penalizing these people for the lack of housing choices and open a program to applicants who are renting rooms in houses?

Question 182-17(3): Emergency Housing Need
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

This was one of the concerns we heard across the Northwest

Territories. A lot of folks out there who are just trying to get into the workforce, however, rent was taking up a good portion of their money that they were making. We’ve tried to address that.

Obviously, being a new program there are still some things that need to be worked out, and then with most programs will be evaluated after a year, but for now our goal is to try to work with those who are in the market housing industry. There are many other cases that we can hear about and discuss, but those cases I think will have to have that discussion at a later date.

Right now when we’re rolling this out, we want to just concentrate on getting them into private market rentals, and then we’ll go from there and evaluate the program after a year.