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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

It is a room that is used for emergency situations and people that can possibly harm themselves. Right now there isn’t any in Inuvik and there might be multiple cases. For the larger centres, are we looking at doing possibly multiple rooms and not just a single room? Is that in the budget plans for future years as well?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Mr. Chair, based on the assessment, we determine what is needed. Generally there is usually one room needed, even if it is used frequently. There is only usually one room needed. If there is a need for a second room to be added for this use, then we would incorporate a second room into either a renovation or a new design, depending on the need.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Mr. Chair, I have no further questions. I just want to commend the work and the initiative on this particular program in Inuvik and throughout the Northwest Territories, especially the larger regional centres. I just want to commend the department for that work. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

We are moving to further questions. We have the honourable Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Bisaro.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have a couple of questions here. I wanted to follow up on some of the questions that were asked previously. First of all, with regard to the questions asked by Mr. Dolynny, by yourself, Mr. Chair, with regard to the electronic medical records, I appreciate the host of numbers that we got from the Minister. It was a little hard to follow. I wouldn’t mind asking the Minister to provide us with that on paper at a later time so it would be a little easier to follow. I wasn’t totally clear, when I was listening to the answer, how long this project is. I gather it is a multi-year project. When is it scheduled to be completed? I kind of got lost with the last expenditure. What fiscal year will we be done? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister Beaulieu.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Mr. Chair, the last cost that we have scheduled in and at which point we expect completion is 2014-15.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister for that clarification. I wanted to also follow up on Mr. Hawkins’ question about the flexibility of funding for doctors to our various health authorities. I understand that the Minister needs to make a business case, but I thought I heard him say that this business case is only going to be made for three of our health authorities. I wondered why this would not be applied to all authorities. I would think at one point in time or another every authority would need the opportunity to be flexible with their funding and hiring of doctors and nurse

practitioners. So I’d like to know from the Minister why we’re only doing it for three authorities. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

We’re coming forward with the business case for the three authorities that have requested – the two authorities and the agency, Tlicho Community Services Agency – to provide flexibility in their funding.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister Beaulieu. I do remind the Members that we are in capital estimates. Some of the questions we’re entertaining here have more operational overtone. So I’ll go back to Ms. Bisaro.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have no further questions about an operations issue.

I would like to ask the question, though, with regard to the item in the budget for the Stanton Territorial Hospital. I noticed with the Minister of Finance’s opening remarks yesterday, he stated $29.6 million for health facility replacements, including funding for the upfront planning for the upgrades that will be required at Stanton Territorial Hospital. In the budget itself it says Stanton Territorial Hospital and planning study only. So I’m a little confused as to whether or not the money for Stanton is going to be used, well, I guess it’s planning, but is the money a planning study for a new hospital, or is it a planning study to do upgrades on the current old hospital?

We’ve been doing upgrades for quite a few years. It’s an aging building and in order to keep it in service, we’ve been doing upgrades for a number of years, but are we now doing further upgrades or are we planning for a new building? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister Beaulieu.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The plan for the Stanton Hospital is upgrades and renovations.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks, Minister, I think. So, I guess, what portion of this planning study is for upgrades? What upgrades are required and when are the renovations going to start? It’s a tough question. I know it’s a major reno and we don’t really have the money at this point, but if I could get a little bit more of an explanation on just what the planning study is being done for, what are the upgrades that are required, and when you say renovations, are you talking about the major renovations of the facility of $200-plus million or what? Thank you.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The plan is for a major upgrade, a major renovation at Stanton. The hospital would almost be completely renovated right from one end of the hospital to the other end of the hospital. There could even be additions. So it would depend on how the planning studies come out.

We’re at the stage of the planning studies… When you’re doing renovations to the hospital you can realize that you can’t shut the hospital down, right? I think everybody knows that. So what would happen would be that if we were planning on doing a renovation, or as we plan to do a renovation, the renovations would happen over a considerable time period so that if, hypothetically, we were to spend $200 million on the hospital at Stanton, it could end up being $25 million a year for eight years, as an example, so that the hospital continues to operate as we upgrade.

Major portions of the hospital will be going through upgrades and as we’re finished the upgrades, we would be moving staff and patients around in the hospital in order to complete the upgrades fully over an extended period of time.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

I guess to the Minister just to confirm so that I understand, would it be accurate to refer to this planning study as planning and studying for a major retrofit and renovations of the hospital? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Probably the best term that we could use is a redevelopment of the Stanton Hospital.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

That’s all I have. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you. Last on my list I have the Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I’d like to keep it brief here. I’d like to just ask a question or two on emergency medical records, follow-up. I know that estimates of the costs have doubled over the past year for a number of reasons and we’ve been given some information on that. I’m wondering to what degree will the current proposal complete the implementation of emergency medical records, given it will take until ‘14 or ’15, and what is the likelihood of a change in project scope and schedule and costs. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister Beaulieu.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This money, we’ll roll it out and will get us to a stage where it’s functional, but there will always be ongoing costs. So electronic medical records are up to date and maintained and useable at all times across the board. Although this would get it going, there will be ongoing costs.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

I guess I might be interested in exploring that with a little more time, but maybe I’ll just ask, is it anticipated that it will be rolled out across the territory comprehensively all at once, sort of thing, if digitally we have that capacity and so on? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Two things. First, I would offer committee an opportunity for us to do a

presentation on the electronic medical records and, yes, they would be rolled out across the territory. That’s the intent of the medical records.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Maybe the last one for now, Mr. Chair. I’m just wondering, when I go to see the doctor, he seems able to pull up my records pretty easily and access some pretty good history there. What’s the difference that we’re talking about here between the current system, I suppose, whatever it might be called, and the EMR being proposed here? Thank you.