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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

That’s all the questions I have, and I appreciate Mr. Guy’s comments there. I understand that this is not the mandate of this department. They’re providing that service in the absence of proper responsibility by other parts of government. I appreciate that service. I know our communities do too. I’ll be working with the Minister of MACA to see what we can do to take that off your hands. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. We’ll go to the Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Bisaro.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just have a couple of questions here. The Minister mentioned that some of the increase in this budget is because we’ve added new facilities to our total numbers of facilities, and that the O and M operational costs of these facilities are increasing the bottom line for the budget. I wondered if the Minister could advise which buildings he’s referencing when he says that we’ve added buildings to our stable of facilities. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister Abernethy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. For some of the specifics on that and the actual costs and the individual numbers, it’s best to go to Mr. Lewis, so I’d like to pass it on to Mr. Lewis.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Mr. Lewis.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Some of the assets that we’d be referring to that have come into service would be the new data centre. It would be the new government building in Inuvik and records storage facility. Those are two of the larger ones that just come to mind. We do have a number of other smaller facilities that we’ve added. I can provide those if you can just bear with me for one second.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Minister Abernethy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It is a big list, so rather than reading the whole thing out, we can commit to providing that to the Member. But we’ll go back to Steve just to give us some of the finances around that. But as far as the list, I just want to check if the Member’s okay if we provide that later.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Mr. Lewis.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Okay. For 2012-13 an example would be the new school in Inuvik and funding associated with that. There is an ENR crew trailer and associated funding that was added to that. There was lighting assigned to do with the DOT runway, cold storage facilities for ENR, Health and Social Services senior assisted living facilities. They’re fairly small numbers. I can continue to go on if the Member would like.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Minister Abernethy, before we have you answer again, if we have commitment to provide that detailed information to the Member. Any further update, Mr. Abernethy?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Originally I committed to providing the list of the infrastructure, but we can actually provide the costs, as well, and make it a little bit easier for you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Ms. Bisaro.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair, and thanks to the Minister and his staff. I’m okay with the costs that have been outlined in general. I was just wondering which buildings, particularly the new school in Inuvik, and Mr. Lewis has advised that that’s included in this budget, so that’s a good thing. I don’t need that list. Maybe, Mr. Chair, you can confirm whether or not other Members wish to see that list, but I’m okay without receiving more information at this point.

I did want to ask a question, though. The description of asset management talks about inspection services. I know that it is certainly something that we do as a government, but my impression is that we don’t do very much and that inspection services in general in the Northwest Territories by communities and/or by the government is pretty minimal. Could I get a bit of a description of the extent of the inspection services that the department provides? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister Abernethy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thanks, Mr. Chair. By legislation we’re responsible, as a government, to provide inspections on certain types of things like electrical, elevators, boilers, pressure vessels and gas safety. But for a little bit more detail, I’d like to go to Deputy Minister Guy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Mr. Guy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Paul Guy

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Minister did cover the list of things that we do inspect and many of these assets, certain types of boilers require annual inspections. Elevators require an annual inspection or whenever any work has been done an elevator it requires an inspection. The electrical permits are associated with all construction in the NWT, commercial and residential construction that will require a permit based on the act, but that service and inspection and permitting would be done through our safety division. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Ms. Bisaro.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Thanks for the information to the department. So I guess I’m just trying to understand whether or not the department covers every construction in every community in the NWT. So if somebody in Colville Lake is doing some addition to their house and they’re adding on electrical, do we send an inspector there to look at that addition and to make sure that the electrical has been properly installed?

The other question I have relative to this is if we do not, what kind of liability are we taking on? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Paul Guy

If there’s a requirement under the act, then we would provide the inspection. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

To the question of liability, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Paul Guy

I guess, Mr. Chairman, I’m not really sure I understand that question, but about the liability, about any sort of undertaking is normally shared among the number of parties involved, whether it’s the contractor, the equipment, constructor, the supplier and as well as the inspection side, there potentially could be some liability, as well, and that’s often determined by the court process. So I’m not sure what the particular question is. But in terms of liability of on-the-ground inspections, where we have a legislative requirement for doing inspection, we would do that, Mr. Chair.